Biden administration unveils ‘Disinformation Governance Board’

What, specifically, is something they've proposed that is unconstitutional? I keep asking, you keep running away and hiding. I'm eager to address this topic. Then only ones running and hiding are the sky-is-falling righties.

 

DHS is a product of the congressional authorization of it. The first amendment says. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Read it, learn it. There shall be no law, (which congress would have to create) prohibiting the free exercise and use of free speech, or the press, or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, practice their religion or petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Your president, Xoe seems to think himself king. These are the dictates of monarchs, or dictators. And here you are, defending the castle, huh... why is that?

 

"Disinformation"
Anything that goes against the chosen leftist narrative, no matter how true.

 

What is the DHS doing, specifically, that violates this? I ask again, you run away again. What law is prohibiting free speech? Why, after several pages of being asked, can you not conceive of an answer to such a simple question?

 

When a rightie says something is "unconstitutional on it's face", that's Game Over....

Clearly, it's unconstitutional when the "on it's face" card is played....

 

Well if you gotta point it out please point out the tyranny.

 

We're still trying to get the righties to actually point out any real tyranny here. Asking for pages now. Nothing but running and hiding.

 

It's already been pointed out multiple times, but in another thread this week, I made this point.

So a government board to determine what is truth and what isn't', and then instructing social media to ban or delete things they don't consider to be truth, is anti free speech.

If Trump wins in 2024, do you want him to abolish this board or keep it and use it?

 

Still dodging the question. What. 1st. Amendment. Rights. Would. Be. Violated? Talking to private businesses is not illegal. No, the government is not (unless you have some kind of source you are hiding from us) dictate to private companies what is truth and what isn't. They are, however, allowed to talk to companies and share concerns. Unlike with Trump, I've seen no overt desire from this administration to end the 1st Amendment.

 

I don't think I said the term "First Amendment" in this thread, so why are you directing this question at me?

Meanwhile no, LOL, "Talking to private businesses is not illegal."

Talking...oh boy.

I thought you were some sort of Libertarian but I can't imagine any libertarian defending this so are you really just a partisan Dem who is in favor for whatever Uncle Joe favors or is there some weird libertarian argument for a government "misinformation" board?

 

I don't know what is anti-libertarian about government health orgs talking to private businesses. Meanwhile, you keep waffling. You say you aren't saying any rights are being violated . . . but you also call realizing this basic fact anti-libertarian. This whole thread started with claims of fascism and rights violations . . . now the people claiming said nonsense are running off in hiding.

 

They haven’t prohibited anything. There are ways to prohibit disinformation that don’t involve prohibiting it. Could just be finding and responding to it.
Surely you don’t think it’s illegal to point out or respond to lies?

 

So long as it’s purely advisory and not forced, what’s the issue?

 

Ok. Here's my problem with this. It's vague. Given that Biden has appointed someone that's accused of spreading dis/misinformation herself it's also dangerous. It's like putting the fox in charge of the hen house. I can't remember when liberals became so trusting of governmental actions. In days of the past the ACLU would be all over this.

Ok. Now I'll swing back around to answering your question/s.

 

What governmental action has actually occurred that in any way prevents anyone's speech? How has the government actually been put in charge of any speech? Whose rights are being violated and how?

 

You only have one eye open, try opening the other one.
The idea that "the vast majority" comes from the Dems is only 50% correct. IMO.

 

The bedrock of our country (and the Constitution) rests upon freedom of speech. One of the pillars of it that is often overlooked is how it relates to the freedom of the press. The press has become our modern day internet and social platforms like Twitter. Since when is it the responsibility or authority for the goverment to tell its citizens that this "press" is disinformation, while another is correct and proper information. That's usually referred to as propaganda control. Controlling the message. If the government is allowed to get away with this it creates an intimidating environment. Thus silencing the press which doesn't walk the Party's line.

 

What said freedoms are being suppressed? Who is actually being silenced (and, no, being criticized isn't silencing)? Why can't you answer?

 

I did answer your question. In greater detail than you answered mine. Try to digest what I said before jumping on that "Post Reply" button.

 

Is that a new department of the GOVERNMENT?

 

Whobhas Florida censored and don't scream DISNEY who are still free to say whatever they please.

 

She also claimed for years the Russia collusion hoax was real.

 

Would you be comfortable with a "disinformation governance board" at DHS full of Trump appointees providing "advisory" guidance as to which claims are true and which ones are misinformation / disinformation? Because there's a not insignificant possibility that's what you're going to have in 2025.

 

Are they so full of themselves they believe they will never lose power and all these things they want to put in place and do will then be under Republican control.

imagine if Trump had had such power, he's still be President because his Ministry of Truth could declare he is speaking the truth against all others.

 

I think they believe they will win the Midterms by hook or by crook. If they can pull it off all hell will be let loose. Beginning with the push to pack the SC.