Biden promises to end death penalty after DECADES of advocating for it

Glad you agree with my statement, and I agree that it's bad to abandon one's principles for political gain. Of course, that doesn't imply political calculus can be a abandoned by policy makers. That is the nature of politics.

 

Beijing Biden does more flip flops than a freshly caught Mackerel on a boat deck.

 

Biden's changed his mind to a better position. I wish all politicians would do the same and often.

 

Oh, so you actually believe and are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he truly changed his personal opinion, motivated entirely by a selfless desire to do the right thing, from self-introspection and contemplation on the issues, not by political opportunism and wanting really badly to attain the highest and most prestigious position in the land.

 

I can't see into his head any more than you can. He's supporting a better position.

 

Ok, so you're criticizing him for listening to the majority of the people of the us and forming policy around that.
I think you just like to argue, no matter what anyone says.

 

Is your life insurance paid up to date?

 

It's called telling you what you want to hear and doing nothing about it.

 

Biden is one of the least principled politicians this country has ever had. A person can change their mind on an issue but Biden will do that every week.

I'm against the death penalty for the most simplistic reason. I do not want an innocent person put to death by the state. Studies show that 1% or more inmates who are executed were innocent. The innocence project caused the release of many men on death row. Had they been executed there is no remedy.

Then there is the time and cost to execute somebody. Even John Wayne Gacy took 14 years to die! It took 10 years for Florida to execute Ted Bundy.

There was a Netflix documentary about a low life who murdered his cell mate just so he could be put on death row because it is safe, you get a primo cell with a bigger tv and better food.

 

I was a nurse in a max prison for 10 years. We were a special needs prison for sick inmates and had no death row unit but we did have one death row inmate who was there for medical reasons. He was bed bound so you had to go into the cell to give him his food and medicine.

There always had to be 2 officers in that room when you went in there for any reason. Since he could not be walked into another safe room he was in there when a rockman(working inmate) would come in to clean the room but in those instances a supervisor was required.

That man was around 70 and had been on death row for 14 years. His family has several law suits pertaining to his medical care. There is no way they would ever put him to death and I'm sure he died from his age and illnesses.

The point being it was extremely expensive to have this man on death row vs the cost to have given him life without possibility of parole.

 

More proof that Biden is mentally challenged, and has memory problems. He can't remember what he has said in the past.

 

good for Biden, it should be ended, sometimes the inmates have no victims, sometimes they are the victims...

http://www.forejustice.org/wc/ray_krone_JD_vol2_i9.htm

 

Trump changes his mind day to day and week to week, that Biden evolved over the years on this, not a big deal to most

Trump confessed to the bus incident, then later tried to deny it, proof Trump's memory is failing him, he can no longer keep his lies straight

 

To use a liberal technique, what does that have to do with Biden?

 

I am sure that there are always cases like this. But there are far more that deserve the death penalty. To stop all death penalties is to deny justice to the families of the victims.

 

it;s a comparison of Biden to the current President he is replacing, if you're saying this shows Biden has mental issues, then you must believe the same about Trump

 

one person murdered by the system is one too many, besides lwop is a much worse punishment, death is a get out of jail free card

 

In my opinion, someone that murders someone should give up their right to live. I have always found it confusing that liberals would speak out against the death penalty, but then advocate abortions. A fetus has done nothing to rate death, but a murder or rapist has.

 

You obviously are not reading something correctly. The issue some of us have with the death penalty is that it is inevitable that innocent people will die. That is unacceptable in a free society.

The consistent position is to be against the death penalty and abortion like the catholic church.

 

so if the system murders an innocent person, what should they give up?

 

The real fix is for the Federal Government to add more labs for testing DNA, and retest every DNA sample used in convicting someone of murder or rape. If the new tests show the person is innocent, then the courts can set the conviction aside. But those that are found to have committed the murders or rapes can be executed as scheduled.

You gave us an example of one person that was convicted twice of a murder that he did not convict. Of course that was a mute point because the appeal system worked in his case, and he was not executed. But here is an article about a Oklahoma resident that claims that he murdered a woman to teach her a lesson. Do you actually think that he should not get the death penalty?
Man Confesses To Murder of Mother To 'Teach Her a Lesson,' Say Police (newsweek.com)

 

Liberals do NOT advocate abortion and you have no proof they do.
Liberals advocate for women having the same rights as everyone else.

They advocate CHOICE.

 

Firstly, nobody is advocating abortion. Many people advocate giving women choice over the issue.

You could only be confused about the positions on abortion and the death penalty if you've never listened to pro-choice people. Almost universally, they don't believe that the fetus is a person beyond a certain level of development. You may disagree with them on when personhood beings, but you can't seriously be confused about why they would think abortion is ok if it they don't think anyone is being harmed.

 

I don't really have an issue with this. I can see people changing their views on a topic like capital punishment. I have probably altered my opinion on this topic several times in my life.

 

He is pandering tp his constituency. Instead of whining about it, we should be happy we live in a country where our politicians feel as though they have to pander to the people who vote for them. It beats the alternative.