Biden Says Marijuana Might Be A Gateway Drug

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  1. Turin

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    Thats why I head out to Dupage county once a week where my companies data center is at. 8.50. :)
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    He won't get my vote.
     
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    Why they were shut down under Obama I don't know. I really don't think I'm going to be voting for Obama again.

    Should Trump be elected again I guarantee they will all be shut down everywhere as soon as his election is assured. He has said he blames the death of family members on drugs and doesn't like or favor them at all. I wonder he's let them go this long, since bashing hippies is the reddest meat there is for his Base. Maybe he's waiting for closer to the election.
     
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    drugs are to blame for lots of deaths in America 70,000 people in 2017 and that's just overdoses!!

    Less than 40,000 for guns and most of those gun deaths that were not voluntary ?? drug/ gang related!
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Which means Trump probably will, or might as well.

    Peabody wants Trump to win, no Democrat. He isn't going to say anything that will benefit anyone but Trump
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    None of the gang deaths related to drugs would happen if drugs were legal. Keeping drugs illegal supports gangs. Just like Prohibition made the Mafia much more powerful than it ever would have been otherwise we are making gangs an underground government which is threatening to take over the legitimate one
     
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    that is a bogus argument! drug users support gangs!!
     
  8. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    It is only illegal if the jury convicts. If people want street drugs the jurors should stop convicting the drug users. Imagine if the next 200,000 drug cases were found not guilty.
     
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    Most people want the person for President that will benefit tem the most, it's just human nature. Under Obama when I went back to work in 2010 after being my Dad's care giver till he passed away, I was getting raises of $0.10 to $0.25 and hour per year. My first raise under Trump was something like $1.50 an hour per year, each subsequent years was $1.00 an hour per year. Why do you think I'm voting for Trump.
     
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    What makes you say that? The Democrats love the revenue stream for the drug sales and jack them up to the Max. Like the moonshiners from days gone by. Why would anyone go to a legal pot shop and pay the tax when they can visit the guy on the corner and get the weed cheaper and with no tax? Eric Garner was out there selling non-taxed cigarettes and look how hard the liberal state of NY came down on him.
     
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    Marijuana is legal in CA.

    A cop was just killed by a gang in my state.

    You are simplifying things.
     
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    Really love to see the evidence, like real evidence, not just "well, if..."
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    What sort of evidence will you accept? Can you give an example?
     
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    The only reason that gangs deal drugs is because drugs are illegal and can consequently be sold for highly inflated prices if you are willing to take the risk of dealing in an illegal substance. Do you really think that anybody would deal with a dangerous gang and pay them hundreds of dollars for something they can buy readily at a legal dispensary with no risk and for much less money?

    Is former Speaker John Bohner a gang member now?
     
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    What do gangs still deal drugs in California?
     
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    And you're not? Why was the cop killed? Did it have to do with Marijuana? Yes, gangs will still exist, there are many other illegal things they can do, but if drugs are not illegal I simply cannot for the life of me see how they will continue to derive anything like the kind of money they do from it now..

    Does the Mafia still control the liquor industry? Do the makers of Jim Beam and Chivas Regal dispense their product on street corners and kill competitors for territory?
     
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    He was killed after coming across a cartel crop in a rural area.

    The cartels still sell Marijuana here, and do it cheaper.

    If you have heard of "vaping deaths" many are because the cartels are making their own for cheaper than the highly taxed prices that the legal stuff sells for.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article236777383.html
     
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    Your link has nothing to do with your false claim.
     
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    That was a secondary point...if you hadn't selectively edited my post and done some homework you might have realized that.

    Ray is referencing a July report by 2News about the DEA warning about undetectable drugs in vaping cartridges, specifically THC cartridges. Many of those tainted THC cartridges came from drug cartels. But the DEA never mentioned over-the-counter vaping products, which Ray is claiming.
    https://kutv.com/news/local/is-there-really-a-vaping-health-crisis-a-look-at-the-facts

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/...-black-market-thc-vapes-electronic-cigarette/

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...it-thc-not-legal-marijuana-column/2490361001/
     
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    Here in Colorado pot is legal, there are still gangs that sell it ther cartels still grow it illegally both in town and out in the national forests where they do great damage.
    The cartels and gangs are not going to give up the cash cow that easily.
     
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    Look in the mirror... Ok you wake up and Trump is in jail.. Guess what.. Nothing about you has changed.
     
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    Thank god we have tolerant people like you left eh?
     
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    On the contrary, I am far less worried that I may be incarcerated for opinions I have expressed here and elsewhere.
     
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    Strangely enough that would happen in a political system you want....
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How so?
     

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