. Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 'partners' of the Women's March

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  1. Sam Bellamy

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    You made it relevant when you listed women's core concerns. So I addressed why it's a myth. Is that not fair game? I can address Soros' ties to the march. In short, yes. It soils the fabric of the movement when it is being funded by a billionaire who wishes to destabilize our country for his own financial gain.
     
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    I already answered that in #14. I raised the ante and called. Cards?
     
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    Yep, 1 mln sounds about right, that for each 320 americans just 1 participated in this freak show and 319 did not does make me less anxious :D

    Which part did I make up, Soros's $90 million spent on the "spontaneous" 2 minutes of hate?

    [video=youtube;t4zYlOU7Fpk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk[/video]
     
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    What does it mean to "delegitimize Trump?" What evidence is there that delegitimizing Trump was their goal?

    What's "a lot," and how do you know?

    As I mentioned already, it seemed to be concerns about regressing rather than fighting for rights they don't have.

    I'll ask again, what does that mean and what evidence do you have that this was the goal?
     
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    It's a tangent. The point was that there are women who have that concern. I'll consider it a myth for the sake of argument if it will keep you on topic.

    What evidence is there that he "wishes to destabilize our country for his own financial gain?"

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    Oh, you meant your non sequitur post. My mistake. I don't have any interest in following your distraction away from the thread topic.
     
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    Just as I thought. You're all in with a deuce with jack high. You should have folded when you had the chance.:roflol:
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said:

    So I asked if everyone who participated was paid. You then said you don't know how the money is spent. That sounds like you got caught saying something you can't support.

    Let me make the point another way: for the sake of argument, I'll agree that being paid to do or say something means your concerns are less legitimate. How many participants were paid? If the majority of the people who participated were not paid, should we take their concerns seriously?
     
  8. Sam Bellamy

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    If you see it as a legitimate concern of women, thus bringing up the topic, then I feel it a legitimate rebuttal. You're free to agree or disagree for any reason you desire.

    Soros' desires are well documented.

     
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    Please don't bring facts into play here. It's not sporting. :grin:
     
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    I didn't place any judgment on the legitimacy of the concern. The question was what are their concerns, and I listed some of them. Your response would be like someone asking about types of desserts, me listing some, and you taking issue with the nutritional value of cake. That would be off topic, and so is this. This is the last I'll say specifically about that in this thread.

    So well documented that you pointed me to a sketchy blog? You okay with me rebutting it with articles from the Onion? Seriously, though, is there actual evidence that he "wishes to destabilize our country for his own financial gain?" I mean, if you can link me to an original interview where he says problematic stuff, or to a WSJ (or similar source) article about his financial dealings or something, that would be convincing. But if all you've got is blogs, we can stop right here.
     
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    Sorry, Soros's money taint the entire event whether you like it or not, whether everyone was paid or just the organizers... You sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Would you consider concerns serious if the event was financed and organized by David Duke, even if not everyone was paid directly? See, I did not think so.

    As far as your concerns are concerned (pun intended), they look exactly like the 2 minute of hate anti-Emanuel Goldstein concerns in the video I posted - brainwashed enraged people screaming like crazy instead of thinking.
     
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    Yes. It says women will do anything for a bus ticket to what's typically a tourist destination. My sister went and she doesn't know why, she just knows the bus was taking her to DC. Before you slam her, she's gay, she has two valiantly fought for liberal protections against being criticized.
     
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    Are you kidding? Did you hear Madonna? She said she wanted to blow up the Whitehouse!!! They absolutely HATE Trump.

    Whatever $90 million dollars buys I guess. :roll:

    How have women's rights regressed? How is Trump for the regression of women's rights? What rights don't women have? I already asked you that and you have yet to reply.

    I keep giving you evidence but you keep either ignoring or denigrating it.
     
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    It would honestly depend on whether the participants knew Duke financed and organized everything. Otherwise, the concerns stand on their own merits. If a neo-nazi complains about having his wages stolen at work, I'd take that concern seriously, regardless of his being a despicable individual. What makes Soros comparable to David Duke, and do you have evidence that the bulk of the participants knew he had ties to the events?

    I disagree, but it's clear there isn't any traction to be had here.
     
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    Asking again, what does it mean to "delegitimize Trump?" And a single person talking about her fantasy doesn't represent an entire movement.

    Non-answer noted, I guess.

    Restricting access to health procedures, equal pay, etc. I already listed these concerns back in post #6.

    I already said it wasn't about what they don't have.

    You keep giving me hearsay and misunderstandings, actually. Oh, and dodges like the one above. It's getting a little boring.
     
  16. Sam Bellamy

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    It is also well documented in that 'sketchy blog' the quotes came from a LA Times article. You must have (intentionally) glossed over the paper's mention.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2004/oct/04/opinion/oe-ehrenfeld4
     
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    Yes! Anyone who dissents from herr trump will be declared a terrorist and have their assets seized! Those freedom loving trumpbots!
     
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    Never thought of that....A free bus ticket. :hmm: Seems like it was a 'catch all' protest mostly funded by George Soros in hopes of delegitimizing Trump's Presidency.
     
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    So because one person didn't know what was going on, all participants didn't know what was going on? Are you joking? I know a dozen women who knew exactly what they were doing and paid for all of their own expenses. Anecdotes aren't especially useful or convincing.

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    What part of that interview is so problematic, exactly?
     
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    I assume you have some evidence for this? Oh wait, this is the post-truth era, I guess this is just an alternative fact.
     
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    Well, it never quite worked like that, Trump and his supporters have been constantly accused of association with David Duke and KKK, of being racists, Nazis and anti-Semites even thought David Duke did not finance a single Trump's event, openly or behind the scenes and Trump repudiated him at least a dozen times. Your march buddies were in fact carrying all those "Trump-Hitler", "No to Racism" signs - direct and totally baseless accusation of Trump and his supporters of racism.

    Well the marchers did not complain about stolen wages, their litany of complains was in line with Soros' agenda to a tee.

    Hmm, both are radicals and extremists with hateful albeit different agendas
     
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    I have to say I'm hardly surprised you don't see the difference between dissent and subversion.
    Dissent is legitimate expression of political disagreement. Subversion is the undermining of legitimately elected governments through a variety of
    means, none of which are legal or ethical.

    Which side are you?
     
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    The one where if his name was Koch you'd be marching in the streets with a torch and pitchfork.
     
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    There is evidence for all of it. Try using your computer (your blather machine, in other words) to find it.
     
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    The problem with Soros is that he has cleverly disguised his participation in his endeavor to overthrow the U.S. economy by nesting anti-American so-called philanthropic entities and foundations within foundations so,. tracing funds directly to him is very difficult. Since he is so anti-transparent and anti-American maybe he should be declared a terrorist. I have no doubt that the FBI and CIA are tracking his moves though.
     

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