Black "Thug" Culture, psychology why are they more prone to criminal behavior?

it will all be solved tomorrow, dont worry.

 

I am so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sick of hearing you ****** right wingers directly insult me. I was 13 when my father died. I went to a good college, got a good job and became a successful and productive adult. I have never had any legal problems. I also did not become gay. Single parents can and do raise children successfully and the government should support them in their efforts to do so, not run them down as being "dependent", when it is usually that same government that has taken the father away in one manner or another.

 

It's the damn welfare state and the dissolution of black families geniuses. You keep comparing apples to oranges and wondering why there isn't a commonality. Caucasian kids raised in poverty by a single parent are just as likely to become violent criminals as are black kids in similar circumstances. What little difference there is, and believe me it isn't much, is easily and factually attributable to the fact that no one s telling the caucasion kids that it's some one elses fault that they're (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. You make excuses for criminality you get more of it.

 

Much of what you said is true. But why is it happening? Why are so many Black kids being raised without a father to guide their lives? I came from a very poor family and neighborhood but we had a Mother and Father to guide our lives and none of us 6 kids got in trouble. We wouldn't dare come home with a bunch of stuff we ripped off at a store, or a bike they knew we didn't buy. Mom told us all the time, "Pick your friends wisely, because just because your poor, you don't have to be trash and no matter how good you are, if you hang around with trash, people will think your trash." I remember Dad telling us, if we ever steal, steal a lot. Enough to get you out of the country, because if I find out you stole, I'm going to kill you." He was proud of his name and didn't want any of us to do anything to tarnish it. So why are so many Black fathers leaving their family? They didn't do it before the 1960's. Black fatherless children were only a few percentage points more than White fatherless children. It was way lower than it is now.

How can Black kids and mothers expect to get out of poverty without the help of fathers? Government handouts only lifts their head above water, if won't get them out of poverty. How can kids improve their environment without fathers, or staying in school. Because Blacks have a high drop out rate too. You can't blame Whites for most of the Black problems. It's a problem brought on by Blacks. Martin Luther King even complained of the conduct and high crime rate by Blacks.

I agree that Blacks don't have the same opportunity as Whites. Is it because of the color of their skin? I don't see the Chinese having the same problems Blacks have. Yes, some of it is pure racism. But I don't believe most people who are racist are racist just because of the color of your skin. Except to associate Blacks with thug culture. I think you know what I mean by that. So, I do believe that much of the opportunity that Blacks miss out on is because of conduct, more than skin color. It's only because many put the color of one's skin together with thug culture, that gives Black a bad name.

 

because the welfare state perpetrated by the white guilt liberals made the black father irrelevant
when you pay single females to have babies with no father in the house what you get is single mothers

 

It's quite illegal to discriminate on race, sex or orientation. Indeed, if oppressed it's not through governmental policies. But rather, the sub-culture which Marxists love to perpetuate. If the sub-culture, entirely dependent on government welfare were to become free, the African-American Community would be stronger for it and INTL. Marxism would be stopped once more.

 

I feel I have been clear and blunt enough about my position

 

So Jim Crow laws and slavery had NOTHING to do with the fact they were black?

The loops you have to jump through to be a republican

 

Show me evidence of free will, there is absolutely none. Where does free will fit into the "Nature vs. Nurture" equation? Show me in a psychology book somewhere that they say free will exists, I guarantee you its not there.


"Free will has never been proven by any evidence to play no role in our lives."
What an incredibly ignorant statement, you cannot disprove a negative, are you familiar with this concept?

 

I agree that it is not genetics, but i disagree about the crime source. 100 yrs ago there was a lot more prejudice toward blacks. They were not as crime ridden as now. The most obvious factor is the breakdown of the family unit... fatherless homes. This is a result of social engineering & the welfare state, that has rewarded out of wedlock pregnancy as a career. In return, society has reaped the bitter harvest of crime, para family gangs, violence, & more bigotry. This is leftist policy, not anything inherent in the black race. They have been handicapped & told they are inferior to whites by their liberal plantation masters, & have crippled them as a race, which accounts for the massive violence, dependency, & instability of black neighborhoods. I am greatly offended that my countrymen have been demeaned in this way, & indoctrinated by their white, agenda driven manipulators, who see them not as valued citizens, whose rights should be preserved, but as pawns for political manipulation.

the last 50 yrs have seen the systematic breakdown of the black family, a direct result of failed social engineering, welfare state policies.

 

If you are honestly going to sit there and pretend the Chinese had to face the same discrimination as black people did in America than there is no need saying anything further, you are being willfully ignorant.


"Is it because of the color of their skin? I don't see the Chinese having the same problems Blacks have."
You are not that ignorant, you are just playing semantics as usual. Comparing the struggles blacks faced with the Chinese? Grow up and drop the rhetoric.

 

Than why wasnt the black community so much stronger before welfare even existed? To pretend welfare is the cause of all of black peoples problems when in fact its the only thing keeping their head above water is absolutely hilarious you would say that, any hard working black person on welfare would NEVER vote for you or another right winger, thats why they overwhelmingly vote left wing because of this propaganda the right wing spews about how everything is black peoples fault and white people never did anything to cause any harm.

 

I've done a cursory study of Asian life inside the United States from the 1800s on. Yeah, a great many of them had it bad as did Native Americans, the Irish, the Italians, Hispanics . . . and Blacks; but ONLY Blacks continue to wallow and feel sorry for themselves as if they were being paid to whine, cry, and complain. But then again they sort of are; that is if they WANT to keep that leftwing supplied taxpayer's gravy train pouring into their pockets. It's part of the deal. Pretend to be downtrodden and angst-ridden victims and always vote Democratic Party, and your give away programs will never end. Now that's a good deal!

 

They were not as crime ridden because they we are getting even more and more segregated due to housing discrimination, which republicans want to keep legal btw,
"Education is also used as a means to perpetuate hypersegregation. Real estate agents often implicitly use school racial composition as a way of enticing white buyers into the segregated ring surrounding the inner-city[74] The percentage of black children who now go to integrated public schools is at its lowest level since 1968.[75] The words of "American apartheid" have been used in reference to the disparity between white and black schools in America."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States#Effects

 

This is the problem lol, you think other minorities were treated exactly as bad as black people which is ABSOLUTE BULL (*)(*)(*)(*) the whole world knows thats not true, the fact you are trying to deny it shows you are a propagandist plain and simple.

 

A few points; first anyone can look up the statistics and discover that before leftwingers began ramming give away programs into the pockets of Blacks and EXCUSING them for everything they do all the damn time, they were predominantly family oriented with intact marriages and relatively few out of wedlock pregnancies and fathers abandoning the mother and baby or babies. But after fifty years worth of leftwing 'care and concern' it's really bad in those regards according to the grim nature of statistics.

One other thing; did you think that nobody would notice your effort at verbal slight of hand? " . . . this propaganda the right wing spews about how everything is black peoples fault and white people never did anything to cause any harm," you wrote. Now what average Right of Center citizens says that some White people NEVER did anything to cause Blacks any harm? None of them -- at least none that are both sane and even moderately well-educated. Soooooooo . . . your attempt to generate a bit of leftwing propaganda was definitely noted. Enjoy.

 

You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to invent your own facts. In other words the reality of history . . . definitely differs with your fantasies. What's nice about nowadays -- and working exactly opposite of what leftwingers imagined would turn out to be the state of things -- is that after the Left massively overplayed the endless playing of the Race Card for everything under the sun all the freaking time people began to actually vet all that propaganda the Left's been ramming down the nation's throat for decades . . . and are gradually coming to the conclusion that the Left and their professional race hustlers are full of metaphorical feces.

 

Africa wasn't nuked, and we didn't put them in Concentration Camps, violating the Civil Rights Act. /The end. Racism against Asian-Americans was major in mid-19th century America, despite being our greatest allies ever. Culturally and Ethically, Asian-Americans are the greatest addition to the US.

If we must be multicultural, no one culture concurs with us more than Asians.

 

How do you come up with this deflecting, mind numbing, illogical 'facts'? You miss the obvious & statistical reasons, to invent some trumped up assertions with NO factual evidence. 'they we are getting even more and more segregated due to housing discrimination'? There is no logical connection there. The WELFARE state CAUSED the gulags of dependency & inner city blight. Housing projects, touted as upscale living for the poor, torn down in a few years after being trashed by uncaring, uncivilized, immoral, crime ridden welfare recipients.

Real estate agents? Seriously? They just want a commission, there is no secret discrimination conspiracy from realtors to keep blacks in the inner city. Left wing social engineering programs do that, & have been VERY effective in crippling & demeaning the black race. I can see why a leftist would not be comfortable with those realities, but they are the truth. Better to face the truth, & fix the problem, than look for someone else to blame, or deflect with imaginary villains.

Until the bigoted, demeaning, motivation killing policies of welfare state policies are ended, the democratic plantation will continue to pander for votes, keeping blacks subjugated with subsistence living, crime ridden ghettos, & destructive family policies.

[video=youtube;XJ1hRFeU9m0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ1hRFeU9m0[/video]

"Get off the welfare, get out of the compensation line. Be a man and earn what you need for your family. Then your family will respect you because you are accepting the responsibility of manhood."

 

Why is it the only thing keeping their head above water? Why after over 50 years haven't they progressed? Especially after all the things that have passed to give them an edge? Why is crime so much higher now than it was before Johnson's Great Society? While it's down compared to 20-30 years ago per thousand, it's nowhere near as low as it was in the 1950's and 60's per thousand.

Murder
1991 – 24,700
1962 – 8,530
2010 – 14,748

Rape
1992 – 109,060
1960 – 17,190
2010 – 84,767

Assault
1993 – 1,135,610
1960 – 154,320
2010 – 778,901

Burglary
1980 – 3,795,200
1960 – 912,100
2010 – 2,159,878

Vehicle Theft
1991 – 1,661,700
1960 – 328,200
2010 – 737,142

http://leftcall.com/4557/u-s-crime-rates-1960-2010-the-facts-might-surprise-you/

 

Marriage: America's Greatest Weapon Against Child Poverty


For example, when President Lyndon Johnson launched the War on Poverty in 1964, 93 percent of children born in the United States were born to married parents. Since that time, births within marriage have declined sharply. In 2010, only 59 percent of all births in the nation occurred to married couples.

The flip side of the decline in marriage is the growth in the out-of-wedlock childbearing birth rate, meaning the percentage of births that occur to women who are not married when the child is born.[3] As Chart 3 shows, throughout most of U.S. history, out-of-wedlock childbearing was rare. When the War on Poverty began in the mid-1960s, only 6 percent of children were born out of wedlock. Over the next four and a half decades, the number rose rapidly. In 2010, 40.8 percent of all children born in the U.S. were born outside of marriage.[4]

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...mericas-greatest-weapon-against-child-poverty

For Black unwed mothers, it's closer to 75%

 

There are many things which cannot be proven by psychology and many things which psychology does not discuss.

Clearly you know little or nothing about psychology.

And yes many text books discuss the idea you are dead wrong.

 

---What was honestly expected from the black community from the beginning? When their labor could no longer be sold by other men, whites adopted the attitude that "if the negro won't work for free, then the negro won't work.". He was allowed unfettered (pun intended) access to work when he was a slave. He was expected to be worked and whipped to death on a plantation.

---As a free man, he was allowed to play, but he wasn't allowed to win. Fast forward fifty years from the time the throttle was finally eased and can anyone believe it is a coincidence that large numbers of the same group of people aren't working?

---There is no excuse for "thug" behavior. People can't have an honest discussion about race, though.

 

I prefer you tell me exactly what fact you believe it is that I made up and why, rather than pulling random rhetoric out of your ass for an entire paragraph with absolutely zero substance for your argument.

Tell me what I said that was factually incorrect, and how, along with proof.

 

What I personally believe is this:

It is from social conditioning and negative reinforcement from their own communities and political attitudes and white racism.