Blue Lives Matter, Black Lies Shatter. Cops 1850% More Killed by Blacks Than Kill Blacks.

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  1. Ronstar

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    Do u fear every black man u see on the street?
     
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    Off topic? I mean the article literally opens with this paragraph

    George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis has revived the Obama-era narrative that law enforcement is endemically racist. On Friday, Barack Obama tweeted that for millions of black Americans, being treated differently by the criminal justice system on account of race is “tragically, painfully, maddeningly ‘normal.’ ” Mr. Obama called on the police and the public to create a “new normal,” in which bigotry no longer “infects our institutions and our hearts.”

    If we're going to open a discussion revolving around how people are treated differently by the criminal justice system, then we should probably include some information about how the criminal justice system treats both groups A and B
     
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    So, racist voter ID. Still waiting...
     
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    Yeah, not the topic at all as I said.
     
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    I guess the article must be off topic then
     
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    You stated:

    Black people are responsible for 26.6% of all crime.

    Later you stated:

    White people are responsible for 69.4% of all crime.​

    And to substantiate your claim, you post? Arrest data.

    You have not provided evidence in support of your claim. Please don't make me explain why.
     
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    The topic is the mathematic relationship between Americans of African descent being killed by police and police being killed by Americans of African descent.
     
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    I see some people still trotting out the “the blacks are just more prone to committing crime” trope to cover for their denial of systemic racism and white privilege.
     
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    How does systemic racismand white privilege cause 6% of our population to commit 30% of our total rape?
     
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    Uh no sir. The crime report includes Hispanics as whites.

    Furthermore even IF those statistics were all white people (which they’re not) 69.4% is right in line with their total population rate. Whereas the black population makes up 13% of the total population and commits 25% of the total crime. Which is DOUBLE their representation in criminal activity.

    Now let’s look at only violent crime shall we? Blacks make up 13% of the total population and yet they commit:

    51.2% of the total murder
    26% of the total rape
    52.7% of the total robberies
    33.2% of the total assaults
    28% of the total burglaries and
    36.4% of the total violent arsons

    That makes black people overrepresented in LITERALLY every category of violent crime that we keep track of by AT LEAST DOUBLE their population rate and in some cases 4-5x their population rate.

    Whereas not ONE other race is overrepresented in even ONE category of violent crime... much less every single one of them.

    Please spare us your absurd comparisons to white and black crime.
     
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    What do you think is the cause of it?
     
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    dup
     
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    I don't k now where you got your BS statistics from but in 2021 203 blacks were shot and killed by law enforcement while a total of only 73 law enforcement were intentionally killed in the line of duty. The blacks 203 count is from NEWSWEEK which published a list with names of the blacks shot. The law enforcement number is from FBI statistics. The 73 law enforcement killed was from all races not jut black
     
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    Less than .01% of black people every year commit a crime.

    FACT
     
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    What is your point?

    If we say that Hillary is a racist, does it have any meaningful impact on the discussion?
     
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    Hillary never argued that blacks are a separate, violent sub-species of homo sapiens.
     
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    I never said it did. Buuut... Distinction without a difference. Super predator is not exactly a term of endearment.
     
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    No, you just want to take people down a path of trying to defend Hillary.

    It doesn't matter if Hillary joined the KKK. It wouldn't change anything about this thread.
     
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    We've been over this ad nauseum in this thread. This is a factually-correct assertion, but irrelevant to this topic.
     
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    LOL Why am I not surprised that you’re concerned about racial purity. And did you forget there are black Hispanics? So, if you want to take them out of the white totals you need to do it for the black total, too. Easiest route is to apply the “white only” and “black only” population percentages (per Census) of 61.6% and 12.4%.

    End result is that “white only” commit 60.1% of total crimes; “black only” commit 23.3%.

    So, this is how it averages out. And, yes, the black population is clearly over-represented overall, and significantly over-represented for certain crimes. Did I ever say otherwise? No.

    Providing percentages is not making “absurd comparisons.” It’s providing data.

    What IS absurd, is that YOU are making comparisons with no regard to anything but the color of people’s skin. The color of a person’s skin does not - obviously - cause people to commit or not commit a crime.
     
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    Yes, please do explain why. Because I'm interested to know why it's the go-to data for the DOJ, but not you, lol.

    Why is it good enough for the DOJ? Because - again - there is no other source for this data, other than the National Crime Victimization Survey. In compiling it's reports, the DoJ often uses both as a source, because one is via law enforcement, the other via victims. BUT it will always and only use one or both when this type of data is needed because there is no other source for crime broken down by race.

    Furthermore, in the FBI/UCR an arrest is a cleared crime. The FBI/UCR does not track subsequent prosecutions and convictions.
     
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    Fallacy. Argumentum ad hominem: The poster is not the topic of this thread. A factual rebuttal addressing the topic would better support your "argument."

    Kindly post a citation. Thank you.

    You did move the goalposts, however.

    It would be absurd were it not sadly de rigeur in the culture.

    Nor did your opponent argue it did. Straw man.
     
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    No, its highly relevant. Most black people are not criminals, and deserve our respect
     

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