Boeing crashes in Iran

According to Russian politician Ilya Ponomarev, Kolomoisky is "the most pro-Ukrainian and anti-Kremlin oligrach. He played a key role in stopping the invasion of 2014."

If we're going to indulge in wild speculation, rumors and conspiracy theories, we can ask if Kolomoisky's enemies in Moscow arranged to have the plane deliberately shot down in the "fog of war" by their friends in Tehran?

Furthermore, given the reports that remnants of a Russian-made Tor missile were found at the crash site, this has added fuel to the speculation surrounding the identity and nationality of the crew manning the SA-15 that fired the missile(s).

 

I like this one better than Jeanette’s, but most likely it was just plain ineptness—especially if the Russians were involved.

 

LOL - Don't get me started.

Personally, I think an equally inept and spastic Iranian crew on high alert freaked out and ****ed up but I don't put anything past the thugs in Moscow and Tehran.

 

It Didn't Crash -

It Was Shot Down!


An Iranian Air Defense oopsy
Not Russians
Not Israel


BTW @Talon Iran now says it was hit by a missile but not one of theirs
If Not Iran's whose?



Moi
Maybe Ukraine did it to collect insurance

 

Of course Putin again to blame, who else.

 

Your link contains another attempt at Iran trying to cover their asses. They keep saying the plane either turned around or was turning back to the airport, but the truth is that the plane deviated only about 10-15 degrees off it's planned course. That tends to happen when SAMs hit a plane and it's not under control.

Furthermore, all these Islam-Nazi sympathizers and Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theorists posting here should be ashamed.

 

I understand Trump phoned Trudeau and offered to go to town on the Iranians for him, seeing as -he- can't do squat.

 

Iran has dared Canada to show the proof that the airliner was shot down. Canada has a strong Ukrainian lobby, so I would trust nothing from them. Up until now there has been no proof that the plane was shot down - unless you consider some old pictures that might have been taken anywhere as proof. This is from Moon of Alabama:

"...Higher quality daylight pictures of the crashed Ukrainian plane show that at least some of the "shrapnel impact holes" are not holes at all, but are debris or dirt lying on top of the aircraft pieces. Additional pictures also show no evidence of an externally induced event..."​

I checked and found the airliner is owned by the mega criminal Ihor Kolomoisky who is under suspicion for shooting down MI7 in Ukraine as well as the Trade Building fire in Odessa that killed 200. The Ukrainian International airline was declaring bankruptcy and supposedly couldn't pay its workers and crew.

Knowing the criminality of the owner, he probably stole the airlines assets to declare bankruptcy and has left the Ukrainian government to cover the payroll and other debts. His last airline went bankrupt as well. It's called; 'creative accounting'.

When someone told Kolomoisky that it's against the law to have two citizenships Ukrainian and Israeli, he laughed and said I don't have two I have three. He's also a Cypriot citizen. That's where he banks.

If a mole did place a bomb in the plane as I believe, not only would he kill Iranian citizens, but Iranians from the diaspora as well. To add insult to injury which is habitual with people of this category - which includes our government as well, he would then demonize Iran by accusing it of shooting it down.

 

@Jeannette

See #154 abovewards.
I heard it on CBS news as I was uploading.

Iran agrees, it was a missile.

 

Did you watch the video I had posted a link to earlier? That video shows the plane on a descending glide path for a full minute before crashing.

Now, I'm not saying whether the pilot had full control or not. It is apparent, however, that the plane did not fall from the sky or spiral down to the ground, such as you might expect from a missile strike. Whatever happened to the plane, it maintained enough structural integrity to perform the glide seen in the video.

 

Yeah I watched it and it tells me nothing I already didn't know. You have to understand that the plane was less than 8,000 feet above sea level and flying at only 2/3 of cruising speed for the plane. That means you wouldn't have a violent decompression scenario that would compound the impact of a missile strike. Those missiles are designed to explode in close proximity to the target, not actually hit the target. The explosion scatters metal fragments.....which is what does the damage. So blowing a bunch of 1-2 inch size holes in a 737 at that altitude is UNLIKELY to result in something you commonly see in the movies.

 

There's no doubt Turkey wants to have more influence in the Middle East. Iran is a competitor.

 

Maybe the best thing that can happen in this country is for the Canadians to take the lead on investigating the crash. They want answers for their citizens and I think they'll dig for the truth.

 

Prime Minister Trudeau has a minority government and can't afford to get caught making false claims about the accident.

 

Apparently the Iranians are going to announce a preliminary cause of the crash tomorrow.

Iran to announce cause of Ukrainian plane crash Saturday: report
By Yaron Steinbuch

January 10, 2020 | 3:31pm


Debris from Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752, which crashed after takeoff from Iran's Imam Khomeini airportReuters

Iranian and foreign officials will meet Saturday to review and announce their findings of the investigation into the crash of the Ukrainian jetliner that killed all 176 people aboard.

“There will be a meeting and after the review of the initial findings, the cause of the crash of the plane will be published,” according to CNN, which cited a report by Iran’s semi-official Fars News agency....

.....The head of the Security Service of Ukraine said the agency is “reviewing” a missile hit — as well as a terror attack — as possible explanations for the crash, but urged everyone not to “jump into hasty conclusions.”

“Indeed, the version that a missile of a Tor anti-aircraft missile system hit [the plane] is attracting the greatest public attention today,” Ivan Bakanov said in a statement Friday, according to CNN.

“However, it’s enough to open the manual for a surface-to-air missile system to raise a number of questions that need further answers,” he said, adding that his agency is “carefully analyzing the information.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...of-ukrainian-plane-crash-saturday-report/amp/

 

Fake news!

 

See an optometrist.
The plane was on fire before it lost ability to "fly"
and came down.
Debris pattern indicates it fell apart in the sky and not on impact.
Even Iran now admits it was a missile. Whose? ?


@Woogs
Your observations and analysis seem to be faulty per
MSM at the moment.

 

Instead of saying (over and over) that Iran admits it was a missile, how about providing a link?

Did I ever day the plane wasn't on fire?

Have planes never caught fire without being hit with a missile?

 

Here's your link since you think I'm FOS

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-...down-ukrainian-jetliner-according-to-state-tv

 

I had said I would not post on this subject until the investigation on the issue is completed. However, given the statement released today by Iran's military, which admitted the plane was shot down due to human error by Iran's air defenses after it approached a sensitive site during high alert because of American threats, the cause of the crash is now clear. The announcement by Iran's military doesn't surprise as I had already mentioned that the preliminary evidence does raise this as the likely explanation, even if further comment should await the investigation of the case.

One thing, however, that I am not happy about is the notion that the air defense personnel involved are being referred for court martial due to this human error. The real culprit for this mistake to me, based on what I can put together, is Iran's airport authorities and not the military. They should have cancelled the flights under the circumstances. And very clearly, even if they did allow such flights, they should have made sure the latest, detailed, information about any flights being allowed to land or take-off from Iran would be shared with the Iranian military under the prevailing circumstances. Their failure to do so, and the subsequent attempts to blame the crash on technical or mechanical failure to cover it up, raises questions which need to be examined carefully. The questions might suggest innocent mistakes and faulty procedures or, alternatively, they might even suggest more sinister acts relating to an attempt to undermine the revolutionary guards and the Iranian military by those who are openly or covertly allied with foreign powers against them. Regardless, however, any attempt to assign blame to either the Iranian military or any of its personnel on this issue to me would be foolish and would simply serve the interests of those who are trying to benefit from this tragedy.

 

Well, I wasn't quoting you, but thanks anyway.

 

Blaming Boeing for an incident where a plane was shot down by an Iranian missile is a stretch.

 

Nice excuse. The "camp" and "arm" stuff have nothing to do with the crash, so why aren't you able to respond?

 

Iran admitted it shot down the airliner by mistake. RIP

I guessed this but waited a little more, at least they are sincere morons.
The 3 days of lying had a bad effect on Iranians, they are even more upset on the gov. Karma?!

Such a show Jannette puts on all this kind of news, its pure entertainment every single time.

 

Iran murdered 170 innocent people !
Who will be punished ??