BREAKING: Dowd resigns as Trump's [lead] lawyer

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  1. bwk

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    I rest my case. You have nothing intelligent to debate.
     
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    Only in the bizarro post modern identity politics world of the left could that conclusion be possible.
     
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    That’s because there’s no debating the absurdity of your post.
     
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    "That's ridiculous"? And that is your counter rebuttal to his statements? Show us proof boris darc chunk is wrong? What links can you provide us that prove that his statements are inaccurate? If you cannot provide us with this counter information, you have once again proven to us all that you are saying absolutely nothing. We all will be waiting for the counter rebuttal, not empty words.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everything I've read about this case says Mueller is approaching it like a mob investigation.

    The one name that keeps resurfacing is Semion Mogilevich. His fingers are said to be in drug trafficking, trading nuclear material, money laundering, contract murders, racketeering, and human trafficking/ prostitution- and is on the FBI Most Wanted List. You'll find a connection to him with many of the names that have cropped up in the Russian election meddling.
     
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    The book “Fire and Fury” is a joke. That’s the source for that absurd allegation.
     
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    And this post is where you really begin to break it down for us, because at this point, no one knows what the .... you are talking about? More nothing words. Time for you to move on. From the beginning of this debate, you've been shooting blanks.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll discuss and debate with you as long as you bring something to the table. You obviously didn't read the link before calling it ridiculous. Fire and Fury is by Michael Wolff. The article was about a deposition on the book Trumpnation by Timothy O'Brien.

    However, it seems that it is time for me to wish you a good day. So, have a good day.
     
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    I know. That's why I said, that this is so massive, we still have yet to figure and make known all the players in this international crime ring, involving two, possibly more presidents?
    Just as you say, like Mogilevich, how many more like him have yet to surface? How many Russia Oligarchs are involved? How many of these characters is Trump in bed with?

    What is so unbelievably disturbing to me, is that Trump voters and Republicans in Congress look like a bunch of penned up Sheep, who can't, won't, say anything about, what is probably going to be the largest international criminal probe in world history. And Republicans walk around as if they could care less about it. So, my take on the Republican party after this; "ENEMIES OF THE STATE". That's what this party represents to me, or anyone who supports this criminal ring.
     
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    Boss, do you have any idea how easy it is to destroy everything you've been posting? You do know that "Fire and Fury" is a deflection away from the talking points I asked you to prove wrong that bois darc chunk posted right? "Fire and Fury" is a book written by someone that has nothing to do with what I am asking you to disprove. You are cowardly deflecting to get away from proving the other poster wrong that I asked you to rebut. You did not. Lol! You are so easy.
     
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    Do your homework. The allegations on are ridiculous speculation. The allegation is made in a book (Fire and Fury) whose author admits including things which are known to be false - but the author does not identify the falsehoods. How can any credence be given to anything in that book ??

    BTW "Trumpnation" was written in 2005.
     
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    Trumpnation was written in 2005. How is bringing a claim about Trump obstructing justice when President from a book written in 2005 bringing something to the table ??
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm trying very hard not to be as cynical as I am about Trump, but some connections are undeniable.

    Take a look at Trump asking why he couldn't use nuclear weapons. Then in January, the Pentagon determines that the use of nukes is appropriate for cyber hacking- a non-nuclear offense. Today, Rosenstein indicates that Iran was cyber hacking and stealing intellectual property… less than 24 hours after John Bolton is named National Security Advisor. That's the same John Bolton that prefers military response to diplomacy, advocates the "bloody nose" strategy in North Korea, desperately wants war in Iran, and advocates the use of nuclear weapons. Trump tweeting about the "coming arms race" the other day and that Russia can help us with Ukraine, when Russia is the problem in Ukraine, only adds to the worry. Seems like someone is interested in a nuclear war. Congress has been warned about pulling the war powers act back under the legislative branch, yet they do nothing to limit Trump's ability to start a war, especially a nuclear one.

    That Flynn, Kushner and Bannon all pushed a scheme to build nuclear power plants in the middle east, paid for by Saudi Arabia is curious. That would be the same Saudi Arabia that doesn't care for Iran, and has huge oil reserves, so why do they need/want nuclear power plants? I don't think Trump visiting Saudi Arabia first was a coincidence, nor is it a coincidence that Mogilevich trades in nuclear materials and proliferation would be quite profitable.

    Trump has shed lawyers and advisors that attempted to control his impulses. He's considered firing Kelly and being his own chief of staff. Consolidating power is problematic in a democracy, especially one with nuclear bombs.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You directly asked me when Trump had ever lied under oath. I gave you a citation.

    I never claimed that citation was about obstruction of justice.

    There's plenty of evidence of obstruction. He may be charged with it, or he may not be charged. Just as I stated with Nixon, Mueller can name Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator, so he loses the ability to pardon.
     
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    Nice rant. Nuclear war is imminent ??
     
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    Back to before 2005 ??
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do leopards change their spots?

    Trump is a liar. He was a liar in 2005. He's a liar now. He's been proven to lie under oath. He's in a position now that lying will get him impeached. His former lawyer, Dowd, didn't want him to be interviewed by Mueller because Dowd knows Trump lies. Now Dowd is gone and Trump can't get a decent lawyer to take his case…. because guess what? They all know he lies, and he won't listen to his lawyer's advice.
     
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    I certainly hope not, but I am not convinced we won't provoke one.
     
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    The Obama administration also failed to notify the Trump campaign that members of the campaign were assessed to be counterintelligence concerns, the report said.

    Trump advisers had contacts with the pro-Russian Wikileaks, but none were involved in the theft or publication of Clinton campaign emails, the report said.

    On the former DNI, the report says that Crapper, now a contributor to CNN as a national security analyst "provided inconsistent testimony to the committee about his contacts with the media, including CNN."

    A CNN spokeswoman did not return an email seeking comment. Crapper could not be reached for comment.

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/house-probe-accuses-clapper-misleading-congress/
     
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    Nice rant.
     
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    Trump/Bolton will start a nuclear war ??
     
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    Yeah he lies. But can you answer the question of him lying under oath that was asked of you? So far you’ve only presented evidence that he hasn’t....
     
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    Yes - a case can be made that anyone has lied at one time or another and then extrapolated to a claim that the person lies all the time. That’s intellectually dishonest.
     
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    I completely agree.
     
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    A small one:

    During the deposition, an attorney read Trump a document boasting, “Mr. Trump is personally involved in everything that his name represents. This commitment has made him the preeminent developer of quality real estate known around the world, and in all his endeavors the Trump gold standard is apparent.” Is that true, she asked?
    Trump: Yes.
    Q: And when it says that you’re personally involved in everything that your name represents, what does that mean, that your name represents?
    Trump: Well, I think that, you know, I do things that don’t necessarily have my name on it. But I’m involved with, when we put our name on a hotel such as this one which is very important, I’m very much involved in the details.
    In fact, that was not true, as Trump acknowledged a few minutes later:
    Q: Did you review the lease at all before you signed it?
    Trump: No.
    Q: So did you have any understanding when you signed the lease as to what your rights were relative to getting damages against the tenant in the event of a default by the tenant?
    Trump: No. When I signed the lease, you know, my son said we have the lease, so I signed the lease. But, really, they knew it much better than I did. I wasn’t involved in the lease. I signed it, but I wasn’t involved in it.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...eposed-but-not-that-way-louise-mensch/550073/
     
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