BREAKING: Dowd resigns as Trump's [lead] lawyer

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, pretty much everything that related to an event or statement made during the transition or after the presidency began
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then Trump can talk to the grand jury without a lawyer, like Bill Clinton did. The precedent has been set. If you think Trump is not going to have to answer questions about his team's Russian connections, think again. Dowd tried to protect his client and negotiated some written questions from Mueller. DiGenova is playing to the court of public opinion and that matters not one whit when it comes to the law.
     
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    There is no reason for Trump to appear before a Grand Jury. What crime has been committed?
     
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    First off, you don't appear before a grand jury after a crime has been committed. The grand jury is designed to identify whether a crime occurred. But there are currently four Trump associates who have pled guilty or face criminal charges.

    With that said, you are correct in that there is a reason Trump should not appear before the Grand Jury. Specifically, the target of a potential criminal charge does not get called before the grand jury which is trying to determine whether a criminal charge should be filed.
     
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    A crime must be identified for example the leaking of Mike Flynn's name.
     
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    Did you not know there were indictments for 13 Russians?
     
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    A) That's not a crime.
    B) Mike Flynn committed a crime.
    C) Grand Juries, again, are brought together to determine that a crime occurred.
    D) If you want to identify some potential crimes, then lying to the FBI, obstruction of justice, violating the foreign corruption practices act, and conspiracy to defraud the United States are all in the running.
     
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    Who says mueller would not want trump to do both?

    There are no Mulligans for mueller in this game
     
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    I'm not the least bit worried that Mueller will sew everything up tight. He doesn't have a team of specialist lawyers, who left multi-million dollar jobs to work on this, for nothing. Mueller has expressed the desire for a conversation with Trump. Trump says he wants to talk to Mueller. With Dowd gone, maybe Trump will talk to Mueller now. I also am not worried that Mueller could make a case against Trump without talking to him, especially on obstruction of justice.

    I came across an interesting tidbit of information earlier … diGenova may have a conflict of interest in representing Trump. Seems diGenova's wife (and law partner) is representing Corallo, the guy that resigned when Trump crafted the misleading statement about the Trump Tower meeting being about adoptions. The team also represents Sam Clovis and Eric Prince. Of course, if diGenova is only used for the court of public opinion, as has been suggested, and Trump is looking for a trial lawyer, like the 4 that have turned him down, Mueller might not file a motion to disqualify.
     
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    This personnel change reflects a more combative approach to the Cover-Up by Mueller and the Deep State.

    House Probe Accuses Crapper of Misleading Congress
     
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    That's two us of..... Why then, do you think Mueller keeps asking for the interview? Just to make the full Russian connections?? I like the idea of Mueller planning on proceeding without talking to Trump, even though that's generally part of his job as Special Prosecutor....
     
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    Mueller is like Brennan, Deep State Scum:

    John Brennan, Obama's Head of the Innuendo Community
     
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    This is JMNSHO, but I think Mueller wants to give Trump the opportunity to answer questions. Otherwise, I suspect Trump will try to slant the story towards being treated "unfairly."
     
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    And he has...... multiple chances, over several months.... Trump will do exactly what you say, interview or not...

    That dog just won't hunt anymore..... If Mueller pulled an Emily Litella and said "Nevermind" to the interview request, I think that would be classic.... Trump would pop an artery..... The only thing worse than facing the Special Counsel is NOT facing the Special Counsel after being asked to....:)
     
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    You laugh, but it really is true. Trump can't work with anyone because he is a one man show. The problem with that is, he's doing everything he can to cancel his own show, and isn't smart enough to know it.
     
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    It isn't "collusion". "Collusion" means nothing in the legal world. Trump is guilty of "conspiracy" to attack the U.S. during a presidential campaign with a foreign adversary we have sanctions with to get dirt, (something of value) on a political opponent. And, he lied about the meeting ever taking place, until he had to make up a story about a meeting over adoptions, until he got caught lying about that. That conspiracy is illegal, and it has already been proven that it happened. And that's the part the public already knows about. There exists evidence of a conspiracy, and that is illegal. That's the bottom line. If you don't see it, it's because you are lying to yourself.
     
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    Mueller already knows at this point what will be lies and what won't, if Trump takes on the interview? After that, he can stick the lies that Trump is probably going to tell, back in Trump's face. Mueller has a better case that way.
     
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    Well, I don't think they really want war.

    But they certainly don't know how to take responsibility for anything.

    Even with solid majorities in all parts of government, they still act like an opposition party.
     
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    The other lawyer wasn't criminal and dishonest enough like Dowd. The new one pedals in conspiracy theories he can't prove. Which, in my mind is worse for Trump. It doesn't matter, Trump is already caught no matter what decisions he makes.
     
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    This is spot on right here, and everyone should pay attention to Kode's post. You have these two monsters in Trump and Bolton who wouldn't think it twice about slaughtering millions by starting a war just to use this as a distraction away from Trumps illegal election maneuvers with Russia.
     
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    Isn't that the truth. And it's apparently obvious that Shawn (the wacko) Hannity is now running the country.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:OMG, it's you again.
     
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    It is worse for Trump, although I'm sure he doesn't see it that way.

    I think the man is committing political suicide.

    He can't attract top level legal advice. None of the Wall Street or DC firms will work for him, and the profession's superstars have all turned him down flat.

    So he's stuck with Sekulow, a lawyer for televangelists whose act consists mainly of filing nuisance suits for publicity.

    And now, we've got Toensing and DiGenova, the public relations team behind Daryll Issa's Benghazi witch hunt.

    Taken together, this team's greatest contribution to jurisprudence is going on Fox Noise and making up outrageous allegations.

    Which is apparantly how Trump plans to defend himself.
     
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