BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

That link is behind a paywall.
But Mueller worked for DOJ (as he said) so he was bound by the DOJ rules (as he said).
Why did you post the link if you knew it didn't support your position?

 

He was not supposed to report evidence of guilt or innocence. He was to report evidence of any crimes that were committed. He did not do that.

I have no idea what you're talking about here. I stand by my posts on this.

 

Trump continues to be in denial of Russia's helping him in 2016. That is problematic, because obviously we can't effectively counter Russian interference with the fake president denying it and refusing to combat it, and even welcoming it when it benefits him, as we know he did in 2016.

"No, Russia did not help me get elected," Trump told reporters at the White House. "You know who got me elected? You know who got me elected? I got me elected. Russia didn't help me at all. Russia, if anything, I think, helped the other side."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/politics/trump-russia-election-interference-help/index.html

Yes, you liar, Russia did help you get elected. They put a lot into helping you get elected and harming Hillary Clinton. No one is saying that you necessarily won the election because of that assistance from Russia, but they did interfere in your favor. Admit it, you self-absorbed ass, and place your country's interests above your ego for once.

 

That opinion directly contradicts the stated position from Mueller and his team. The one he just reiterated yesterday.

 

Do you believe that actual obstruction is a required element of the crime?

 

I'm pretty sure it was Trump asking Comey he needed loyalty that secured that... that would do it for any non-corrupt public official...

 

There is no such policy it was an advisary letter and after it was issued President Clinton was charged. Starr found crimes and reported them and then when Congress did not removed held them until Clinton left office. Presidents or anyone subject to impeachment do NOT have immunity from prosecution and the OLC has never advised that.

 

It certainly helps to show what was obstructed and how. What was obstructed here and how?

 

Ah yes. Trump made Comey ignore FBI protocol and break the law. Liberal logic 101.

 

He provided evidence. He said Trump's attempt to interfere with the Flynn investigation was obstruction. He said that his threats to fire Mueller was obstruction of justice. He said Trump's order to McGahn to deny the attempt to fire Mueller was obstruction. He also cited Trump's attempt to influence Manafort's jury as obstruction.

Try reading the report instead of your favorite right wing fake news liars.

 

Read my last post above, #810.

 

Wrong they are two separate matters, Congress can ONLY judge on removal from office or not. They do NOT make prosecutoral or judicial decisions. They cannot convict someone of a crime.

Indictment AND prosecution. Either the Congress can impeach and remove so that the prosecution can move forward or the prosecutor must wait until the party is otherwise out of office. It does not preclude the charges being made and even the indictment being voted. Go study up on the Clinton impeachment and criminal charges.

 

None of which meet the standards for OOJ and hence no charge of OOJ.

 

Is actual obstruction a required element of the crime?

 

You were trying to determine what secured Comey as anti-Trump.... are you disagreeing with me (I honestly cannot tell)?

 

Yes because Google is so easy to use, even a leftist can do it.

Read more for me from your copy of Fire and Fury.

 

It does advise that the DOJ can not indict or convict a sitting President and that the only element of the government which can indict (and did for Clinton) is Congress.

That is the long standing policy. Starr recognized that it was binding, which is why neither he nor anyone at the DOJ indicted Clinton for the crimes he supposedly found. But he nonetheless decided to make a criminal recommendation to Congress even though that recommendation against someone he could not convict would influence the office of the President and influence the criminal trial conducted by the House and Senate.

Mueller refused to be bound by Starr's decision to unduly influence the office of the President and the proceeding criminal trial conducted by the House and Senate. Read more here:

Is Mueller Bound by OLC’s Memos on Presidential Immunity?

 

Gee, what was Trump accused of doing....what was it that Schiff and other Democrats said they had irrefuatable proof of....what was it the FBI and DOJ used when they funded and promulgated Clinton's dossier...

What was it this forums leftist have started page after page of threads on for the last two plus years?

Oh yeah.

Trump and Putin colluded to change the outcome of a presidential election.

I'm mean I'm sure if the local PD planted drugs in your car you'd be over there talking to them in the morning.

 

Well, he didn't actually say any of those were obstruction... He labeled them in a section entitled "Factual Results of the Obstruction Investigation" then said he cannot indict a sitting president, then said (yesterday) "the opinion says that the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting President of wrong doing."

He left all the freaking dots there... we'll see if anybody has the stones to connect them...

 

Sure.

I guess that means since I'm talking to you now, I'm colluding with Trump.

Every Russian = Putin star chamber is such an intellectually stupid way to think that only the left could pull it off.

 

1. The report bristles with obvious evidence of the Trump campaign’s enthusiastic desire to collude with the Russians. There is plenty of evidence of that, There is also the carefully timed release of stolen information timed to damage the Clinton campaign, and the contacts between Russians and Trump campaign officials directly or through cut outs. There is the almost routine contact between Trump campaign officials Russian intelligence and Putin backed oligarchs.

You can’t wish or bluster any of that away., The Mueller report confirmed all of these things. And documented them, often with the admission of the parties involved.

The absolute best argument you can make in Trump’s defense is to suggest that they were so arrogant and incompetent that they got rolled by their Russian benefactors.

This attack the investigators as an excuse for ignoring the known facts isn’t going to work. I realize that Fox bellowed it all day long yesterday (once they got their jaws off the floor). And that’s good enough for the Trumpster sheep, which has been ignoring, or denying (before being forced to back down

Confusing Trumpsters with facts never seems to penetrate.

Ignoring the obvious while building castles in the air is what they're doing now.

 

Never saw that specific charge... Trump and Putin working together you say?? Interesting... That's so wacky, it MUST have come from the mind of Tucker Carlson...

Here's what Mueller had to say on that

The first volume details numerous efforts emanating from Russia to influence the election. This volume includes a discussion of the Trump campaign’s response to this activity, as well as our conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy.

 

I found a youtube video that proved the Earth is both flat and hollow at the same time.

 

See my post #810 above.

Not true.