BREAKING; Trump declares all media enemy of the American people!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and he attacked the legitimacy of a Federal judge, by calling him a "so-called Judge".
     
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    Sorry Margot, I got a bit too personal on that one. Pax.
     
  3. Scamander

    Scamander Well-Known Member

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    Again, Trump with his 'fake judges' rhetoric is not pointing to fake judges, he is suggesting a fake justice-system.
    But I guess you are oke with the fact that the (your) President of the United States publicly trashes the values and credibility of the American constitution. In other words; not worth the paper it is written on, according to Trump.
    https://youtu.be/TkSajyh2_40?t=4145
    Thus you are supporting a President who prefers to rule like a dictator. (Not bothered by laws that should protect YOU!)
    Rest assure, Trump will then use the absence of laws against you to do God knows what to your human rights. (Your *ss will belong to him! Or, more likely, belong to his secret police. Perhaps even literally...)

    Then you get my point. (My Trump-point.)

    Trump has lost round one regarding his travel-ban that But he'll be back for another ''delicious'' attempt at segregating ethnic populations.
    What was that little plan of his he was talking about?
    Oh yeah, that's right; a Muslim Register Database! Muslim-Americans better start sewing the badges that have to go on their coat.

    What 'liars' do you refer to? If you're just going around spreading random accusations then you're no better then Herr Trumpf, who already stopped giving examples.
    There's a word for randomly accusing people of all sorts of mischief, without even the slightest intent to proof it's true.
    That, then, is called discrimination.

    Like 'all Jews are liars'.

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    There's a storm of Fascism coming to America. In fact, it's already here...
     
  4. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    You are making no sense at all. It's like an explosion of incoherence. Relax, deep breaths and once you calm down you will feel much better about everything.

    We absolutely have the right and a duty to ensure that folks who enter our country are not a threat and in fact, a benefit to our nation. But, that's a big task. Right now we simply make sure that we take great care with these folks attempting to enter from these nations identified by Obama as high risk for exporting terrorism into our cities.

    Obama is no dummy, if he says these nations are high risk, then they are high risk.
     
  5. Scamander

    Scamander Well-Known Member

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    Why am I being incoherent when I point out that Trump is discriminating?? (Meaning, discriminating against the media, the Judiciary and thus the Constitution in general.)

    In case you haven't noticed; Trump's message about 'some fake news-story or some bad reporter or fake judge' has morphed into statements of generalization

    Slowly but surely Trump just ceases to provide specific examples of what story of reporter of judge he has issue with.

    Now, according to Trump, 'ALL media are liars and ALL judges are fake'.

    I say again; that, then, is discrimination. Blaming an entire group of people for some perceived mischief, without providing a shred of evidence.

    Like; ALL Zorro's are bad. ALL Zorro's are liars and devils of mischief who only seek to steal from the poor.
    (Actually, Zorro was exactly the opposite; 'A champion for the oppressed and always around to punish cruel politicians'.)

    But I am sure you get my point...:boxing:

    If you (still) do not oppose Trumps fascist rhetoric than let me give you this advise;

    If you decide to live in 'Trump-land' (or the version of Trumps America) be aware of one thing; In that land Trump is NOT your friend!! Far from it. You may reside in his version of America but only under his truths. That will be the truth that 'all ethnic populations, other than the kind Trump considers American, are evil', the truth that 'abortion is witch-craft' and that 'homosexuality is a invented by the devil'.

    Yeah, try to convince me THAT would be an acceptable society to reside in, in return for a job...

    Incoherent ramblings? Well, I listened to Trump preaching to his masses and I heard the ramblings of a madman. Today Trump speaks of 'fake media' and 'bad judges', tomorrow he could tell you how 'bad and fake all Muslims and Jews' are.

    This rhetoric will then go on for a while, until Trump has turned his followers into true believers. Now they all chant that all Muslims and Jews are bad. Why? No reason. They just are...

    After that, Trump will get started on his believes about abortion and homosexuality. Those thing are also very evil. Why? No reason. You JUST have to trust Trump they are because he says so.
    And Trump, the king of truth, knows best. Right?

    But back in the land of the sane I suggest we keep this Trump-dog on a leash, otherwise were all in deep trouble!

    As for myself, I know that I won't have to say; 'I didn't see it coming!'
     
  6. Zorro

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    Complete fantasy. He regularly points out his respect for the Press that reports accurately even as he points out those that lie, to their faces. The Press has every right to lie, and Trump has every right to point out when they lie about him. So Refreshing! You seem to have a very screwy understanding of our right to speak our mind, and that includes all of us, you, me, Trump and even the lying Press.
    He backed up his points very well. Did you even watch his press conference?
    Make up your mind son!
    Judges that don't follow the law ARE bad judges. All reasonable people agree on this. Hopefully Trump calling them out will be enough for them to correct the error of their ways, and in fact, I suspect it will.
    Mindless rantings. Trump has said no such thing about the Jewish People, and he only speaks out against the Muslims THAT WANT TO KILL US!. Not the peaceful ones, those we all love, especially Trump, he loves them deeply.
    Mindless incoherence. Trump is the most pro-homosexual President the GOP has ever produced. At his acceptance speech he brought the GOP to their feet in standing ovation for Gay Rights. He even stopped and noted the moment when the GOP stood for the rights of Gay Americans, and he congratulated the Convention. Do you watch anything, or do you just suck down the swill from rabid anti-Trump websites? Al Gore invented the internet so you could check these things out for yourself! Make him proud, do it!
    Dog Leash?
    My word!
     
  7. Papastox

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    Where was the "media" when Hillary, during a Democrat debate said this:

    ANDERSON COOPER: Which enemy that you made during your political career are you most proud of?

    CLINTON: Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians; probably the REPUBLiCANS.

    She laughed when she said it. Where was the media? It was a moment of clarity for us that the media was going to do everything they could to get her elected.
    Unbeknownst to them, though, that was the beginning of the end for her. The topper was her "deplorables" comment.

    Anyone with HALF a brain knows what the media is trying to do to Donald Trump. They are in the tank for Democrats(sold their morality), but do not try to deny the obvious.
     
  8. Junkieturtle

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    A loyal patriotic non-fake news media would have made up all the necessary details for the Trump administration's non-existent terrorist attacks. Shame on the news media for leaving Trump and his spokespeople out to dry and not having their backs.
     
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  10. Scamander

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    You seem to have a very screwy understanding of discrimination. Let me go back to the thread-title which started this all;

    Trump has twittered;

    The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!


    Where and when, after this tweet, (and many similar since) has provided Trump us with the evidence of his, perceived justified, enemy claim?

    What exact articles and names of journalists has he mentioned, not to to mention his specific grievance, so we (the people) can judge for ourselves whether or not that grievance is justified?

    The Answer; 0. Trump solely relies on random accusations against media and law ('false, liars, fake, bad',) without ever presenting any claim or evidence.

    That, then, is discrimination; randomly accusing a whole group of people of some mischief without ever backing it with proof.

    Now imagine blaming Muslims or Jews or Mexicans for being false, liars, fake, bad, without ever explaining why these things would be true.

    That is called being racist and that, then, is Trump personified. Thus Trump is a racist because he is discriminating against elements in society he doesn't care for.

    Here end of the lesson.


    But don't worry if you still don't understand; soon Trump will come to a town near you, where you can for yourself listen to his endless rant about bad media and fake justice.

    After that rally, you to might have become convinced that free press and the rule of law must be ignored. They're all liars and fake, bad and false!.

    So what do you do the next time a news paper article writes critically about Trump? Burn it! (Like Hitler's followers burned the writings of the world.)

    And what do you do the next time a police-officer stops you car regarding a broken tail-light?

    Kill the b****** because he's lying! Your taillight isn't broken! (Well, it is but that's not the point; that police officer had no right to tell you his opinion. Besides, he was probably a Jew. All police-officers are Jews, right? That's a well known fact.)

    Don't worry if you just killed a man. Remember, the rule of law is fake, bad, false and ridiculous and must be ignored, as must free speech.

    Trump told you so and his voice is the only one you belief.

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    Mindless incoherence? Futuristic nonsens?

    This happened in Germany in the 1930's where brainwashed followers of Hitler (swept up by his trance-induced rallies) ignored the rule of law and went after the Jews en-mass.

    Hitler got out of his followers exactly what he wanted; they, on his behalf, overthrew democracy.

    Will you, Zorro, be a puppet for Trump in the same way? Or, perhaps, you already are?

    I suggest you fix your screwy sense of discrimination.

    https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u...eople-do-not-think-adolf-hitler/image.png&f=1
     
  11. Hoosier8

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    You mean like the OP? LOL
     
  12. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    You seem to have a very screwy understanding of Fake News.
    Thanks for making my point:

    The Fake News Thread Title?

    Thread: BREAKING; Trump declares all media enemy of the American people!

    What Trump actually said:

    The FAKE NEWS media is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

    So Much Winning!
     
  13. Scamander

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    You still don't get Trumps mindset;

    The media or judicial or whatever-enemy of Trump is whoever, on the day, displeases him.
    As such, he'll leave you no choice but to write or rule in his favor, or otherwise praise him to avoid his wrath. (Even if it means avoiding being truthful....)

    Thus, if the 25 million jobs Trump promised failed to arrive, do you think Trump will accept that as a reality?
    Of course not, not even if the people complained en-mass! He'd call you all liars.
    And then he would blame the press for falsely reporting there are no jobs or the people complaining. Denial pur-sang.

    The Great Leader only wants to believe in his own grand delusions.
    The rest of the world might as well not exist, including all mentioned, and not yet mentioned, free press.

    Thus, regarding his paranoia, Trump is the enemy of all people, including the judiciary and the free press.
     
  14. Monster Zero

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    Yeah - and THERES JUST A FEW (ahem!) Clinton Foundation and Democrat fundraising scandals -

    NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, NPR, CSPAN and the rest of the print media are hiding ...

    I counted 8 illegal, unethical,fundraising corruption articles - right here, that could be descrbed AS BRIBES !

    Half of Hillary Clinton’s Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying Congress

    "The Democratic presidential candidate earned $10.2 million in 2014, her first full calendar year after leaving the State Department. Of that, $4.6 million came from groups that also spent on lobbying Congress that year, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

    In all, the corporations and trade groups that Clinton spoke to in 2014 spent $72.5 million lobbying Congress that same year."


    Half of Hillary Clinton's Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying


    $153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented

    $153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented - CNNPolitics.com

    Here are the seven biggest donors to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation

    "A Washington Post analysis shows that since its creation in 2001, the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation has raised nearly $2 billion in cash donations and pledges, a whopping figure that illustrates the Clintons’ global reach."


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-bill-hillary-and-chelsea-clinton-foundation/


    The Clinton Foundation: Hillary's Conflict Of Interests - Beholden To Banks, Corporations, And Foreign Governments

    "The foundation has raised at least $42 million from foreign governments - and according to an analysis by CBS News - at least $170 million from foreign entities and individuals."

    Brandon Turbeville: The Clinton Foundation: Hillary's Conflict Of Interests - Beholden To Banks, Corporations, And Foreign Governments


    Hillary and Bill . . . Gates

    "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is also one of the seven largest donors to the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.[4] The two foundations have also partnered together on a number of initiatives such as the No Ceilings Full Participation Report."


    Brandon Turbeville: Hillary and Bill . . . Gates

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    another of many reporting gems from Dave Sirota ... thanks Dave!

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    Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation. :f_yikes:

    Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department

    By David Sirota - 05/26/15

    "Even by the standards of arms deals between the United States and Saudi Arabia, this one was enormous. A consortium of American defense contractors led by Boeing would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to the United States' oil-rich ally in the Middle East.

    Israeli officials were agitated, reportedly complaining to the Obama administration that this substantial enhancement to Saudi air power risked disrupting the region's fragile balance of power. The deal appeared to collide with the State Department’s documented concerns about the repressive policies of the Saudi royal family.

    But now, in late 2011, Hillary Clinton’s State Department was formally clearing the sale, asserting that it was in the national interest. At press conferences in Washington to announce the department’s approval, an assistant secretary of state, Andrew Shapiro, declared that the deal had been “a top priority” for Clinton personally. Shapiro, a longtime aide to Clinton since her Senate days, added that the “U.S. Air Force and U.S. Army have excellent relationships in Saudi Arabia.”

    These were not the only relationships bridging leaders of the two nations. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia contributed at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, the philanthropic enterprise she has overseen with her husband, former president Bill Clinton. Just two months before the deal was finalized, Boeing -- the defense contractor that manufactures one of the fighter jets the Saudis were especially keen to acquire, the F-15 -- contributed $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to a company press release.

    The Saudi deal was one of dozens of arms sales approved by Hillary Clinton’s State Department that placed weapons in the hands of governments that had also donated money to the Clinton family philanthropic empire, an International Business Times investigation has found. "


    Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department

    ..


    One news article noted how the "Progressive Caucaus" in Congress routinely votes for more war funding.

    Congressional Progressive/Pentagon Caucus

    Congressional Progressive/Pentagon Caucus | War Is A Crime .org

    The Progressive Caucus: Enabling Obama’s Rightward Moves?

    The Progressive Caucus: Enabling Obama?s Rightward Moves? | War Is A Crime .org
     
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    You seem very reluctant to admit that the title of this discussion is yet another fake news falsehood.

    Sad!
     
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    Who cares any more what media Trump has a beef with? His beef depends on his mood of the day. That means anybody who he feels writes him down.

    Today NYT or CNN, tomorrow who knows?


    So here's Trump explaining his media- enemy tweet. He says that he only mentioned FAKE news as the enemy.

    [video=youtube;nAJhcc5ke7k]https://youtu.be/nAJhcc5ke7k[/video]

    In Trumps deluded mind fake means; Any news that does not flatter him or that he considers contradictory to his beliefs.

    Trump is merely exposing his delusional brain, as any psychologist will tell you. You can't beat the delusional patient on his game because his game has no end.

    'If I don't like what you write, even if its true, I'll consider it fake! Not unpleasant or uncomfortable, no, fake!' Thus a complete denial of the truth.

    This is what Trump can talk about in group therapy, as soon as he returns to his chair...

    We should feel sad for him.
     
  18. Zorro

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    He loves the honest media, even when they write hard hitting true stories. He only hates the lies. We are all tired of the media lying. And don't even get me started on the Fake Media!
    Liars. Fake News,
    That's right.
    Yet Trump is beating the lying fake media, like a rented mule!
     
  19. Scamander

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    Yet here is Trump again (after Merkels visit) CLEARLY suggesting ALL news is fake. No specifics, Trump just refers to THE news as fake.
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    And so Trumps brainwashing of the people, regarding free thought, continues...
     
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    You want to parse words? Nowhere in that tweet did Trump say ALL. You do realize you can turn off your machines thereby protecting your "free thought"?
     
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