BREAKING: Universal Pictures Cancels Release Of Film Showing Liberals Hunting Conservatives

I don't think it should be canceled and I'm a trumpster. Free speech is free speech. This is a load of crap!

 

While free speech is without question a keystone of the constitution and freedom, it's also illegal to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. It's illegal to use free speech for malicious slander and to do harm- and it's illegal to use free speech to incite riot or violence. Free speech only works well when there are responsible people using it. Most of the time, those abusing it are making fools of themselves, but when it's used to protect the promotion of violence and crime..... It's become a weapon, and a crime.

 

I asked you to re-examine your position on protagonists/antagonist casting. Do movies about gangsters and gang culture that end up with the “good guys” winning discourage gang culture? Are they intended to? Literature and the arts aren’t as simple as you make them out to be. Without seeing the movie it would be impossible for either of us to come to meaningful conclusions but there are numerous possibilities you aren’t acknowledging.

 

Just a comment to offer.
Movies about existing reality have a basis in fact. The movie in question, "Hunt", portrays real people in real-time political terms of today in a brutal, killing situation It appears to be very antagonistic- designed to promote the idea of killing those you see as "deplorables". Right out of HRC's degrading remark about those who opposed her- something sinister and deplorable as it's own act.

The concept here is that it is justifiable to "hunt" people you feel are beneath you. That is similar to the racism of over 100 years ago- translated to replacing racial based elitism with political or ideologically based elitism. When obvious and powerful negatives risks are at stake as they could be here- it's wise to come down on the side of caution rather than a "what the hell, so what" approach. It doesn't get much more biased that when you can put entire groups of people into categories like this because of general perception and ideology.
What people perceive here is somewhat telling in terms of revealing real character- for example, a facade of magnanimous humanity for all oppressed, but ready and willing to oppress those who don't agree clearly is indicative of a fraud with no real values at all.

Good men have good character- and that requires them to see and treat things in a balanced fashion, not a biased one. We seem to be very short of good men these days. Bad karma to promote and glamorize bad behavior.

 

Dude, I was a lit major for my undergrad. Sure, there is complex literature out there with more ambiguous roles, where it isn't always clear who is the protagonist and who is the antagonist. As much as I love Blumhouse . . . they don't exactly make sure highbrow narratives. It's shlock. I've seen more of the movie than most of the people criticizing it. It was pretty clear who the protagonist was. Pretending that it wasn't clear would require me to pretend that maybe the communists where the heroes of Red Dawn, maybe the machines were the heroes of the Terminator series, maybe Hans Gruber was the hero of Die Hard, maybe the Nazis were the heroes in Shindler's List, maybe the Egyptians were the heroes in Charlton Heston's 10 Commandments.

You are making an argument consisting entirely of "maybe" without any reason to lend any credence to the maybes.

 

So what if they cancelled it not like I was gonna pay ten bucks and drive thirty miles to go see it..

 

When has any work of fiction fallen under such laws?

Good thing the only evidence that this is happening with this film exists in the imaginations of RW snowflakes.

The idea that the film "legitimizes" any kind of hostility or violence is purely your fantasy. Try facts instead of feels.

. . . that's the exact arch of the Purge series . . . by the same company, Blumhouse.

Imagine? Yes. You have to use your "imagination" for your case because that movie already exists and the outrage didn't happen. In fact, the right was more outraged by being associated with the villains of the film. Because, at the time, they realized how heroes and villains work. Not sure what made them forget.

Lucky you! I wasn't so sheltered. Also, we've had self-described white supremacists, white nationalists, and white separatists here in the forums. Not sure how you missed them.

So you are saying it would be really dumb to claim that they would identify with . . . the . . . rich . . . elitist . . . killers . . . in . . . this . . . film. Funny how contradictory all of this is becoming.

In your fantasy, sure. Here in reality, not so much.

 

Nobody ever claimed liberal Hollywood writers were smart. That's hardly the point, conservatives have protested all sorts of filth coming out of Hollywood, and the studios shrug it off, but this time they acted. That wouldn't happen if the studio honestly thought there was nothing to the protests. They lost millions on this...

 

Studios respond to outrage, warranted or not, once it becomes loud enough. That's just reality. And claiming that the content of the film is "hardly the point" demonstrates how disconnected the faux-outrage right as become.

 

No. The characters are not portrayals of real people. They are fictional people. Characters. Does the far right seriously not comprehend how fiction works? Really? And, yes, the ANTAGONISTS kill people. Those are the "bad guys." The prey are the heroes. Good guys good. Bad guys bad. Does the right wing really need to retake middle school language arts classes? Really? This ain't rocket surgery.

"Designed to promote the idea of killing"? **** no. Not to any remotely rational, literate person. But keep pretending and lying about the film if that's what you need to further the victim narrative.

I don't know why this is a difficult concept for the fringe right to accept, but no. That's not the concept. The concept is that it ISN'T justifiable to hunt people you feel are beneath you. That's the entire point of these The Most Dangerous Game stories. The hunters are the bad guys. I can't comprehend the functional illiteracy or willing self-deception required to dodge those facts.

 

If it was utter nonsense they would stand by the film, its a huge loss if they don't. I haven't been to a theater to see a movie in years, so honestly this is pretty irrelevant to me aside from seeing just how violent the left is becoming in their beliefs and rhetoric.

What was hardly the point is that Hollywood writers aren't very smart to begin with, I guess that escaped you.

 

It could be a bigger loss if they do stand by it, regardless of whether or not it is nonsense. In entertainment, perception is reality. This isn't a good example of "how violent the left is becoming in their beliefs and rhetoric." Besides, both sides are equally guilty in that regard. No reason to misrepresent a film.

 

You had better check the, "History of the Democrat Party," before you make a blatantly false statement like this.

The Democrats did this in several states starting in 1868 and continuing until many Black Republican candidates were either dead or went into hiding.

1. They hunted down Black Republican candidates for sport.
2. They killed thousands in the process. Anyone who advocated for Blacks or tried to protect Blacks.
3. They often used dogs and horns just like in fox hunts.
4. They offered certain cash awards for certain body parts.
5. In a few cases, they displayed the bodies and let them rot in town squares.

The soft sell:

"In the 1870s, Democrats gradually returned to power in the Southern states, sometimes as a result of elections in which paramilitary groups intimidated opponents, attacking blacks or preventing them from voting."

The hard reality:

"As the battles raged on well in to the afternoon and evening hours, several Blacks were caught, shot, and some later executed for the uprising. The White militia forces drove the resistance in to neighboring swamps and captured or killed the opposition on sight, in most cases."

"Twelve leaders of the Black Republicans who were seized were lynched the following day, which sparked a round of anti-Black violence and sentiment throughout the region. In the end, an estimated 150 to 300 Blacks were killed as a result of the race riot and an accurate number has yet to be determined even after years of research. Whites were also killed, with the numbers varying between 30 to 50 in most reports."

Once the Dems forced the issue through outright intimidation and murder, Jim Crow laws followed.

Another PROUD DEMOCRAT moment.

 

Adorable dodge. Now try actually addressing the post you quoted. We were talking about whether or not fiction is protected by free speech. If you want to create a thread about all of this other stuff, link me to it. Or keep scrambling.

 

Misrepresent the film? Its about kidnapping, hunting and murdering innocent people who happen to be the political opponents of the liberals in Hollywood. They just as likely canceled it because they could find no possible way to defend it...

 

That's exactly like saying the Indiana Jones movies are about promoting Nazism and Red Dawn is about communists killing American high school students. It requires us to forget what protagonists and antagonists are. The "prey" in this film are the heroes. Why can't the desperate-to-be-offended RW realize that?

 

It is the same Democrat play book... It is not fiction in that the same ideology spawns the same scenario.

The modern day ANTIFA crowd are as likely to gain just as much insight into how wrong their current behavior is as Nathan Bedford Forrest did leading the KKK.

 

Keeping people from wasting money on propaganda is good for business. I remember that propaganda film conservatives tossed out at Obama in 2012. Of course, nothing in that film actually rang true, then or now, and cost Dinish D'Souza his credibility. Imagine if people in 2012 bought that tripe. A very smart move on behalf of Universal.

Of course though, a film based on Russians and Trump could be released. But that script would be 100% fact based, I imagine that wouldn't sit too well.

 

More desperate attempts to change the subject. Yes. Movies are fiction. How do you no know that as a literate adult?

 

Not really, in the case of Indiana Jones or Red Dawn, the 'evil' already existed, they simply work their plots to fit around the Soviets or Nazis. In this case they specifically created an evil that directly targeted their contemporary political opponents.

I believe the offense here is that liberals have been decrying 'violent rhetoric' against the president, and then liberals in Hollywood produce something like this. You seriously can't see where there might be some validity in this? Are you folks so blind to hypocrisy?

 

If it included the Obama - Putin deal involving the Koch-Glitsch Italia backdoor pipeline scandal it most definitely would be illuminating.

Not a fluke that the KOCH foods group was just raided. They may be lucky to not be indicted.

 

This movie invented entitled leftist elitists? Really? Care to keep arguing that? You might find two or three useful idiots willing to believe it.

One involve fictional violence. The other involves actual violence. Yes, I see the difference between fiction and reality. Why does the RW hate that? For the record, I don't even agree that Trump is responsible for that violence. The hypocrisy is on your side of the glass no matter how you measure it.

 

THE DEMOCRATS offered a $2.50 gold piece in exchange for a Black male body part. Are you going to deny that this is a historical fact ???

 

No. I'm going to deny it has anything to do with this discussion. Join us back at the topic any time you feel like having an intellectually honest conversation. Or keep running away.

 

What they invented was entitled jackass liberals who kidnapped, hunted, and murdered people, unless that's already a thing. Is it? Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Violent rhetoric is violent rhetoric, there was violence last week committed by both sides, yet liberals were quick to place the blame solely on Trump. No doubt you can see no problem there, none at all...