British 'Golden Dawn'?

I'm out then.

What we need to do is get ALL the private parasites out of it.

 

So I guess you want to get rid of the monarchy, increase the death tax and cut defend spending?

 

Of course.

 

What public funding of elections, I support that but how would it be done, does every party get the same? What we really need to do is change our economy away from London, oil and the financial sectors to have a more balanced economy, the only model that can do that is the Churchill one. Attlee is all well and good when you have billions from the Americans and Canadians to play with. If we want to finish the empire we need to destroy the whole system, not pick bits of that people don't like for political reasons.

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Ok do you want another civil war?

 

It doesn't matter.

The ONLY way to REALLY change this country, is to rid London of the Red Shields, for the first time in centuries.

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I would sooner we just got rid of freeloading parasites like them, so take what you wish from that.

 

Oh no, not another one. Here I am trying to have a rational debate with someone and they bang on about a banking family. Really, some people just have no idea where the real power is in the UK now. These people who have the power now aren't even British.

 

Yup.

Another one that wants to look up the way at the parasites and leeches.

Good luck with your party.

 

So you do want civil war, well that should be very fun.

 

Don't assume for me, or speak for me.

 

You told me to take what a wanted from what you said, so I did. Your fault not my fault.

 

Did I say civil war?

Nope.

You did.

You would do well as part of the system, with your party.

 

Every country on Earth deserves a legitimate nationalist alternatives to the international criminals running amok today.

 

More than ever. It will occur organically, anyway, sooner or later.

 

God help you if the silly bastards figure a way to get hold of a good store of firearms.

 

Was there a pitch invasion Jack or was that another time?

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Even I got the reference!

 

Voicing an opinion however bigoted is fine, I agree, but it's when that opinion turns to violence born of hatred that we part company. The far right revels in violence; we've seen it from Hitler's mobs, the National Front (both here and the French version), the BNP, EDL and Greece's Golden Dawn. Personally I'd rather live in our relatively benign state as opposed to living in fear of fascist bonehead mobs roaming the streets. Most rational thinking people would, I suggest.
I wonder how many Greeks thought they'd never see blatantly racist fascists elected to their parliament.

 

I meant , as an individual. Sure christians fought eachother.

 

Not at all.
People from Yorkshire tend to like Yorkshire food because that's what they were brought up on.
Yorkshire people who like curry, tend to choose to try a curry.

The extremists of any type, tend to choose to try extremism.
Nazi party membership didn't involve a lot of choice for many so that's hardly a good example unless the last, demi dead pope, has been seen burning Jews of late.

 

All ideologues / idolaters have a predisposition towards violence. The more utopian, the more violent. The more certain of their righteousness, the more they view the other side as less than human. This is the problem with our age - you have no faith and no love for country then all that's left is ideology. That's the source of antagonisms and violence within countries rather than a specific movement (imo).

 

That was another time, a time when there was still raw passion in British football, rather than this rubbish non atmos that we have had forced on us now.

 

Way too sensible to be here.



Seriously though - part in bold, I agree.

Now, how did it get to be that way, do you think?

 

Imo, in the modern era it is largely down to the left shifting the focus of the revolution from economics to the culture. No coincidence that the attitudes to so many things (things which formed the backbone of Western societies - patriotism / family / Christian principles) are vastly different since the 60's. The fact that so much has changed in a mere forty years shows this covert revolution (ideological subversion) has been pretty much unopposed and has had unprecedented success.

 

That's the dilemma facing any struggling organization, whether to hold to their core ideological tenets, or whether to try to water things down to try to appeal to a greater group of moderates.

I think the answer is both. The party should be split into two, and then they should both cooperate.

 

Yet its predominately leftists who cause the violence where ever you see some of these groups. Sure Hitler was clearly anti-Semite theres various reasons as to why, but i will give a couple of quotes.

I only post those to help make a point, he thought Jews were only working for their people best interests and hence against his people benefit. He'd given Jews plenty of opportunity to leave and Jews pre-WW2 had decalred a holy war on Germany. He obviously believed they controlled the banks/ money supplies and pulled the strings of nations. I dont know if its true or not, but i do scratch my head and wonder why after a Global Financial Crisis with banks in dire trouble its them that comes out roses and the people feeling the pain. The big banks now even bigger. Why some of the wars we get involved in ect. Where theres smoke theres fire, but for me to be totally sure id need to be a leader of a country to see it first hand... oh like Hitler was. People that believe this might be drawn to Nazi, national society type groups without being racist.

It could be said from a quote above he was against Multiculturalism, did he know something was planned there? Why in the last 60 has this multi cult been put on white countries only? As soon as anyone questions multiculturalism they're labeled a racist, which is clearly idiotic, accepting 100,000 doesnt mean you have to accept 100m. People that believe in limits on immigration, not force whites to become minorities in their own homelands might be drawn to the groups. Again it doesnt mean they are racist.

Now ill concede racists are often drawn to Nazi type groups, perhaps it where they think they should go since so many people say racist = Nazi. Hitler in a quote above obviously didnt think that and even Jessy Owens didnt think it.

Then we look at the EDL, sure racist have been drawn to them but they have worked very hard to get those people out of their movement. And for their trouble they continually get labeled racists by people that dont want them to be heard. Again look at any of the their rallies and its them most often attacked with violence by leftist.

 

Communists were BY FAR the most murderous, cruel, brutal, authoritarian, pervasive force, of the last 100 yrs.

I could name one man alone that was responsible for ten million lost souls.

That man is Genrikh Yagoda. And yet, despite that, stop ten people in the street, say his name.

How many will have heard of him, do you suppose?

Stop the same ten people and ask them about Mussolini.

They will ALL have heard of him, and yet he did not kill ten millon people, or oversee it, did he, no he did not.

So, why always cite NS and Fascism, as being like twin evils, when in fact the greatest evil of all was the Red evil?