Build your own unregistered AR-15

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  1. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    80% lowers are the next thing the G will go after.
    I have a buddy that literally built an AR from scratch. Just bought a spring kit and barrel. Runs great.

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    http://blog.princelaw.com/2015/01/03/atf-issues-first-ruling-of-the-new-year-is-it-the-end-of-80-lowers/
     
  2. Jim Rockford

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    NSA is gaming those that search for the truths with Trojans and tracking software.
     
  3. DoctorWho

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    Remember, the AR-10 originally designed by Eugene Stoner was intended as an easy to manufacture select fire battle rifle, with all the attributes of a "Sniping Rifle" (their words) yet, also a light machine gun, capable of accepting a belt, feeding ammo from a back pack supply of ammo.

    If 80% lower receivers get scarce, they can be CNC machined easily from billet stock.

    You can also make lowers by welding together flat stock plates to eliminate milling operations, if you prefer that route.

    Watch the original AR-10 promotional video on YouTube.

    https://youtu.be/138Of8ucaMY
     
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    Engineers are smarter than politicians, especially anti-gun politicians; regardless what the politicians do, engineers will find a way around it.
     
  5. Jim Rockford

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    It sucks to have to go around , when steam rolling straight over them with the 2nd should be enough.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    It is not the seizing of criminal assets from known drug dealers that is being criticized. Rather it is the use of the civil asset forfeiture program to seize cash, electronic, and all other manner of private property from individuals who have committed no crimes whatsoever.
     
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    That agreement was designed to hide the existence of large numbers of U.S. Forces and Bases in Canada that were not specific to NORAD.

    AA
     
  9. der wüstenfuchs

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    If you've ever filled out a 4473 on a gun that gun has a paper trail. Maybe the ol' tin foil hat is itchy but I doubt the FBI really deletes info after a background check.
     
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    You can actually find 80% parties where a group of guys will get together and make a number of lower receivers.
     
  11. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I was wondering why the B-27 silhouette targets at the local range are no longer black but are in blue
     
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    the FBI doesn't know what gun you bought, what its serial number is etc during a background check

    all the clerk tells them is a long gun or handgun (for age reasons)

    now I suppose the FBI could go to the shop and look up what Joe Smith had a NICS check for on April 2, 2015. But That would require lots of effort.
     
  13. Jim Rockford

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    Sorry pal it is easy to obtain info. Already used the nonexistent ( give me a break) virtual registration of NICS checks to conduct raids in California. One was justified , being that person had become a felon. But that felon had unregistered guns bought legally long before registration was implemented. The cat is out of the bag. The .Gov is lying about destroying the files in 48 hours years as not to have a federal record or registration of your weapons. Big Brother cares little for laws that limit them. You should know that by now.

    https://www.gunowners.org/fs0202-sp-1170138974.htm
     
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    I was a federal prosecutor for 24 years. I know it all. and the files of who has had a NICS check doesn't tell the government what brand, serial number etc you have. There cannot be registration based merely on what the government gets from the FFL dealer's request for a NICS check
     
  15. Regular Joe

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    You think they check that close? I mean, they might notice that you bought a parts kit, but no stripped lower. That doesn't tell them anything though. You could be buying the parts kit just to have spare parts, or to swap out the FCG.
    They might think I built on an 80% lower, because I bought a spare complete upper, but no new lower. My gun parts purchases are the business of no-one else.
     
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    Cash is King. Notice who wants to phase out cash as fast as they can? Credit and mail orders are on a great big brother data base. That is just tracks in your file. Snowden dropped that bomb.
     
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    That stands to reason. I wonder how "secure" your connections are when you buy online form any merchant? Even though I ordered the lower from PSA and paid cash for it at the local FFL, the order was still electronically transmitted to PSA. If the Gov. (NSA) didn't have access to "secure" online orders, I think they'd be raising as much of a stink with that as they are with Apple.

     
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    Its all covered in the Patriot Act.
     
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    So odd it is. I'm reading this other thread as I read this one:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/449884-augusta-teen-brawl-ends-murder-4.html
    Responders there are talking about how our Nation has gone to the gutter. That, while we discuss how the infrastructure of tyranny is being built. That, while we read that Europe is being driven in much the same way.
    This all rages on while the media just keeps ranting on about the election, which is actually just another aspect of the whole bigger agenda.
    I talk to a LOT of people in the cab, and by and large, they feel it too. It's all coming to conflict.

     
  20. Jim Rockford

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    You may nave insight on how this law works without registration.

    The initial intent of the program was to disarm dangerous felons and people with serious mental illness but has since been modified. The state of California has generalized these categories to include anyone who has committed a felony and anyone who has needed a psychiatrist or taken drugs that benefit your mental state. They then took these generalizations one step further by including anyone involved in a domestic dispute and anyone convicted of a minor misdemeanor.

    http://www.snopes.com/obama-begun-confiscating-guns-force/
     
  21. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is really pretty scary ****! WTF is going on in this country
     
  22. DoctorWho

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    The way I understood the question, if it was possible to stamp a name on a receiver, the name Colt was given as an EXAMPLE of what could be engraved, I prefer the pantograph engraving method, as it is low tech, cheap, and can copy another physical engraving or art, and no, it induces no stress of any significance as direct stamping metal might.
     
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    A trail to whoever nought it from the dealer. It ends there. Easy enough.

    Possibly, but the NICS check does not include any gun data.
     
  24. Jim Rockford

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    Some have done that Colt engraving to build perfect retro builds. Some say you could have a copyright issue. There is no part of the law that says you have to mark them at all.

    Here is another thing with engraving and the law. Take your 80% paperweight to a trophy shop or anyone that does engraving, and you can drop it off and pick it up when ever done. Take your milled out now 100% lower for engraving and you can only leave it with a gunsmith with a FFL, who often is very busy and you will be leaving your lower there for awhile.
    Hot tip , trophy shops mostly do laser etching and will do it in an hour or less. Remember the trophy guy can't be left in possession of your 100% , so get it engraved before milling it.
    Hotter tip, use a vibrating engraver , scribble your DL# or a pet name , under the grip. It won't show but still has an identity mark in case it is stolen. Leave it clean make people wonder what.
    Serial numbers are required for sellers. You can't sell a home built, so you don't need numbers. But have seen many fun custom ones like LUV2NDA , or FCKKAMALA the fun is endless.
     
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    My only care is to purchase an AR lower of good quality at a discount price, I love how they AR is so very versatile.

    The other issues of civil unrest and despotic Government are ancillary in nature and temporarily irrelevant to this discussion.
     

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