Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) jobs.

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  1. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    I've been unemployed for over a month. It's ridiculous what these people expect. You know how much you pay to tow your car. Approximately $70 per 60 miles. You know how much they pay their drivers? This one ad I just looked at expects 1 year experience, rotating shifts so you never know when your going to work, and they only pay 8 (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dollars an hour. This is why unions were create. Minimum wage to unload trucks for a living. To destroy yourself physically and emotionally working out in the heat unloading their trucks a measly 7.69 an hour. How are we supposed to pay our rent with that. Rent around here is 1,000 bucks a month. Plus utilities and (*)(*)(*)(*). How are we supposed to survive on this petty ass crap. If I didn't have a family to support I would say (*)(*)(*)(*) them all.

    Don't tell me to get better training. With what money and what do I live on while doing that (*)(*)(*)(*). I got an AS degree and I owe the government 52,000 bucks and what do I have to show for it. Not a damn thing.

    We are competing with third worlders for jobs because they didn't close the damn border when they should've.

    What am I going to tell my family when my credit runs out? How are we going to live?
     
  2. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry about your hard times , Have you thought about starting your own company?
     
  3. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    People need to start taking those below pay jobs. Once they are getting filled and the wage pool shrinks the prices will start rising. It is how the market corrects itself. I posted a an ad looking for an employee in craigslist, by the next morning i had over 100 applicants many over qualified. That is affecting the price of labor. There are no unions that represent the unemployed, only unions that try to keep the supply of labor in a particular industry down to inflate the wages of their workers. If you aren't a union trucker already they are not interested in helping you, the more truckers, the less pay for them. They will call you scabs and beat you with sticks or sue the company and get an injunction to keep you from working.

    Lots of other costs are associated with towing then just the labor of the person towing. 8 an hour is ridiculous though for a dangerous job.

    Have you applied to wal mart or publix? Both despite what you hear have paths upward within the company that can make you a decent living. Especially publix. Lowes and Home Depot are packed with people these days from the construction industry, but produce and meat cutting are two good industries still.
     
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    i moved to the other end of the country without a parachute because of this. look at it this way, would a mountain lion stay on a mountain with nothing to eat or would he move to another mountain? Unskilled peole here make eighty grnad a ear but, there is a reson for that, middle f nowhere and sixteen hour days. with paid accommodation and, dont bother packing your disco outfit as you wont see civilization for months on end.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are you at?
     
  6. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    My guess is North Dakota or one of those states. Lets see...
     
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    mutmekep New Member

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    OP shall not blame immigrants , your governments chose finance over labor and you are paying the price .

    General equilibrium BS posted as a reply to man proving that this assumption is false.
     
  8. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    I agree they spent stimulus on finance hurting labor. Good call. Obama wants to do even more, can you believe it?

    You can't dictate wages without taking them from somewhere else as your country had to find out. When applications at the offered price stop coming in that is when the price goes up. Why do the best soccer players get paid the most? Small pool of people that can perform that job as well. If everyone could perform that well, they couldn't demand the wages they receive. Same with every other job.
     
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    West.

    Low end Sample On site applications are best as most places don't advertise as the turn over is so great they don't need to.
     
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    You know what is the problem with your country? not the $8 per hour but the insane costs you have on everything .
    $1000 for rent seriously ? but forget about this let's talk about something very common like say tooth fillings , from what my American friends told me to do this in the states cost between $1000 and $1500 , in Greece it costs €35 ! you may claim that dentists there do better job but they don't because i have a filling for the last 17 years and only changed it once.
    I don't know why this happens , maybe it is the "maximum profit" mentality but it does drive your country deeper into debt and people like OP to the edge of despair .
     
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    Screw work! The Democrats are in power - become a burden to society! Self-respect ain't all it's cranked up to be.
     
  12. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    You are talking about 2 regulated industries that government loves to get involved in.

    Our apartments aRe larger and nicer and the jobs nearby pay more. You pay more for everything else, especially soft drinks. I was just in Greece. Great food, amazing really, but it is not cheap at all. Cigarette prices were ok, coca cola was $3 USD though. You pay more for jeans etc... Admission to museums was more expensive the train was a little more... That euro is a chain, break ties.
     
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    Even if you are paid more a filling could cost $200 but not $1000 this is insanity....and i didn't mention that my healthcare covers 100% of the price :)
    I don't think that a father in such dire straights is paying this outrageous rent for a larger , nicer house although you people are very prone in falling for things you can not afford. I am not claiming that OP is irresponsible but he wouldn't be an exception .

    Yes the euro is a burden that has to go .

    I bet Obama's admin hopes that pushing people on the verge of poverty will somewhat keep inflation down while they are printing money to feed their fat friends . As far as i know Romney didn't promised anything better.
     
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    It's a supply and demand issue. The supply of basically unskilled workers exceeds the demand for unskilled jobs...therefore employers can lower wages and still attract workers willing to take the pay.

    Education...you need some sort of skill to place yourself above the legions of unskilled/semi-skilled workers.

    It doesn't have to be a college education...there's 2 year programs for heating/cooling...or information technology for example...however the ability to drive a tow truck...is considered a semi-skilled job at best...

    That's the issue you're having...lots and lots of unskilled/semi-skilled workers out there with a limited number of jobs available. It's an employer's market right now.
     
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    terrible situation but it has come to the point that we must view ourselves as contractors out to the highest bidder. You may also wish to explore having multiple jobs. Relocating is something most don't want to do but if jobs are gone in your area then you must go to where the jobs are.
     
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    Fillings aren't that expensive, but I am not sure the cost, I too have coverage. Full dental is $33 a month. Probably less then your tax burden, if you count debt in your burden. Used to be cheaper back in the day, but despite advances the costs have gone up because American regulation.

    Romney is a ridiculously successful businessman who has helped created 100000s of jobs both in mine and your country. I saw you had a dominoes in Athens. Obama has never worked with a budget before until he was President. It was his first try.
     
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    Well i have never be in north America, this is what my friends told me . In Greece health care has nothing to do with the government or it's debt since it is not provided by the government .
    I will not go into the Romney debate since it is out of topic but he has driven thousands of people in despair as well.

    Yes we have weddy's , dominos , hat and mcdonalds and all of them are for tourists and people not willing to wait in the line to eat in domestic restaurant chains.

    For what you are saying $8/hour are like 1600 per month (correct me in this cause i suck in math) which are okay to sustain a person but not enough to feed a family , in that case OP's wife should get a job if she cans , even a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) one will make them 3.5k a month that will be sufficient .
     
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    A Nixon buck is worth 7 to 15 Obama bucks.

    Forty years of the Iron Triangle of excessive taxation, excessive regulation and excessive litigation has taken its toll. Isn't it about time to reduce taxation (and federal spending), regulation, and litigation to reasonable levels.
     
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    I agree, some low paying jobs even require a drug test, but not a morals test, when they used just clamor for warm bodies.
     
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    Have you considered truck driving?
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Well no job is a prison sentence. Even $8.00 an hour is better than zero. I would grab the job and use it to buy time to get the jobs you really want. Imagine the interview

    "I see you worked as a tow truck operator, very different to the brain surgeon position we are offering"

    "Yes, but I have this crazy work ethic. I cant sit around moaning about life. I need to keep busy and this was just a temporary thing till my dream job came along"

    Pure interview gold :)
     
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    Thats why I left a blue State, public unions was killing it. Their is a bunch of jobs down here, I make the same down here as a Industrial maintenance guy as I did up there and my 3 beedroom house is only $500 a month.
     
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    How about simply being moral enough to bear true witness for it; I really just need some money to tide me over and have a work ethic.
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Oh I have no doubt you have a work ethic - But telling a potential employer this means little in an interview. Everybody says the same thing. If however you have a menial job in your resume because opportunities in your field are lacking, the employer sees evidence of your statement, seriously improving your credibility
     
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    "Outsourcing."

    Seemed like such a grand idea to certain greedy and powerful people; they were ultimately shooting themselves in the foot. That is very obvious.
     

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