Burisma Bombshell

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Capitalism is where you sell goods and services in exchange for compensation. What Joe and Hunter Biden did wasn't Capitalism. What did Hunter Biden bring to the table to warrant a $50,000 to $83,000 a MONTH salary? As far as I know, he doesn't speak the language, he doesn't know Ukrainian laws, he's never worked in the energy business and according to reports he never even set foot in the Ukraine. What exactly is on his resume that got him a five figure a month job? Except his Dad is the VP of the USA.
     
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  2. hawgsalot

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    He didn't give 1 million to trump he bought an inauguration ticket, he supported a different candidate. #2 he admitted he presumed there was a quid pro quo for a meeting lol and point blank said told him directly NO QUID PRO QUO he didn't want anything from Ukraine except for the Pres to do what he ran on.
     
  3. hawgsalot

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    Your hilarious why don't you quote what he testified under oath Trump said once he wasn't sure exactly what we needed to ask Ukraine for so he said I called the President for clarification. We all know why but it's funny watching you chase your tail.
     
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    Oh, so the investigation into the biden's is going to happen "next month"? Why do you think this?
     
  5. hawgsalot

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    Who knows if they are or not, I would imagine this is an international thing that leads to an American problem. Bottom line there was serious corruption going on with the Ukraine gas companies, not just this one the other one has come up too. It is not Trump's faul they got Hunter and Kerry's stepson on the board, it is not Trump's fault Joe got the prosecutor fired that was investigating the Dems star witness that was reassigned, testified that indeed they were investigating Burisma when Joe decided to threaten a billion bucks. If you think it's a bad idea to make damn sure our 400 million is going into Oligarchs pockets that's on you but most want their President checking where our aid is going.
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because we need a Ukraine government that will cooperate in such an investigation.
     
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  7. ChemEngineer

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    Well, Mister Biden Fan, you need to watch other channels besides Fake News CNN and MSNBC and PBS. They all prattle the same lies all day long.

    An insider has connections in Washington, D.C. and she said the REPORT will be released next month. Not the "investigation." That has been going on for some months now. You simply put your head in the sand and sing "La la la I can't hear you."

    "Donald Trump is not going to be president. You can take that to the bank." - Nancy Filthy Rich Pelosi
     
  8. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has become obvious to me while watching some of the testimony this week that Volker and others are all claiming naivety about Biden because they
    kind of knew that something wasn't right but weren't in a position to upset the status quo back at the State Department while the Dems were running the show.
    I came away with the impression that Yovanovitch was actively trying to protect Biden by trying to act as a FIREWALL.

    Trump asked for help with trying to get the Crowdstrike server(s) located in the Ukraine. Not the DNC server.

    Once Yovanovitch was unable to continue to keep the visas out of the hands of the Ukraine prosecutors, the interfacing began and it has apparently helped both countries.

    IE: The Ukraine prosecutors can now, with the help of an array of US information gathering systems, track down some of their missing assets.

    The Dems sure are frantic to try to circle the wagons. But the rot is so pervasive that they can't seem to stop what has been oozing out.
    Schiff is a prime example of someone who has covered up so much that he has now compromised himself.
     
  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Certainly.

    But,

    Hasn't ole Joe Bite_me told us, his son Hunter never discussed his Ukrainian job with him? And if they' never discussed Hunter's job, what kind of doors did Huner open for his employer?

    See the problem?
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly, and it works in both directions. The US, for example, can monitor financial networks that the Ukraine prosecutors could only previously dream of doing.
     
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    Elise Stefanik, while questioning Yovanovitch, established that during the preparation for her confirmation hearing that she was instructed on how to deflect questions about Burisma.

    How obvious does it have to get to understand that Burisma was being used, perused and abused?
     
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  12. Dutch

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    Poor, poor Burisma! :hug:
     
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    And Hunter Biden was reaping profits at Burisma that were stolen from the people of Ukraine. What a good son. Joe should be so proud.
     
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    Heck, the Obama administration was concerned about Burisma, but Trump can't be?
     
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    Ok cool. So he potentially was hired because of his last name. Let's assume this is true.

    Where is the crime? What actual crime occurred via US (or even Ukrainian) law?
     
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    Is that what you "heard?" From whom? Putin? Actually you probably did since the GOP and Putin are best buddies these days. You heard it. That's hilarious.
     
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    Come on now. You know it's legit.
    He saw the position on Indeed and applied.
     
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  18. hawgsalot

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    No crime known without an investigation, isn't that what been going on with Trump for the past 3 years? It looks bad, people have said it's bad, the company was under investigation per the dems star witness/ former ambassador when ole joe got the prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold a billion bucks. Trump was investigated due to a freaking 12 million dollar dossier made by Russians and paid for by the DNC for the love of god but this is off limits?
     
  19. hawgsalot

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    Those rascal Russian plants lol. You libs are funny. Russians the new liberal race card.
     
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  20. Gdawg007

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    Whoops, nope, not guilty. He was impeached over it, which is called "charges" but these are not criminal charges and thus you cannot really be "guilty" or "innocent" because it isn't a court of law. If such crimes were easily provable in a court of law, charges could have been filed against him after he left office. But they weren't. Also the perjury occured during a civil lawsuit, not a criminal one, and civil suits have much lower bars to prove damages than exists in criminal court for law.

    And you are forgetting the previous precedent of Nixon. There is no precedent when it comes to impeachment. Precedent is a legal ideal applied in courts of civil and criminal law. Impeachment is a political means of removing someone from office. The terms don't apply and aren't used in the same way.
     
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    He got him fired for...NOT investigating the company. Removing a prosecutor for NOT doing his job doesn't HELP Burisma at all. Duh.
     
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    Eh, that's what an investigation is there to find out according to the dems... See, it works both way.

    And the crime would likely includes illegal money transaction, corruption and peddling of influence you know, the same **** they accuse Trump of doing.

    Combine to the recent news that the DNC is using black money via non-profit org to finance their campaign should be of concerns to all.
     
  23. hawgsalot

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    Cool you calling the dems star witness,the Ambassador of Ukraine at the time a liar? Because her testimony is that they were in fact investigating them when Biden got him fired. Either watch the testimony or turn the channel because you've been lied too.
     
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    It's OK to admit it, comrade.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-gloats-republicans-push-conspiracy-theory-ukraine-2016-2019-11

    I can recall, and find via google, maybe three times the GOP and Russia/Soviet's were saying the same thing. And this is one of them. Why? Because you care more about "winning" than doing what's best for the country which is nominating a GOP presidential candidate who isn't a self-serving turd. Because that's what Trump is and always has been. It's not just that he has an ego, anyone who wants to be president has an ego, it's that he can't set aside his personal interests for you or me. And when you were watching the Apprentice back when it was one, it never entered your darkest dreams that you would make him a GOP president. Not once.

    But keep laughing, it's no skin off my back, mostly yours. I'll laugh along with you!
     
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    Hurry, get under your desk the Russians are coming the Russians are coming. If it weren't so damn dumb I would be offended but instead I laugh at brainwashed lunacy.
     

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