BUSTED!– Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version

Let me ask you something then: Why didn't she say the same things in Spanish, that she did in English? What other message was she trying to convey? It was obviously much softer for Spanish-speaking audiences than English-speaking audiences. It's called pulling the wool over your eyes.

And it looks like little Nikki didn't have to pull too many strings to get you in line.

 

For one thing, I'm not a Republican, so Nikki didn't pull (*)(*)(*)(*). Where does it mention Amnesty again? Please show us ignorant fools who can't seem find it.

 

The same is true be it Red or Blue ! The establishment on both sides serves the Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion monster that runs this country.

It is good to see folks such as Cruz, Sanders, and Trump (although not as clearly as the two aforementioned) calling a spade a spade.

Some kind of grass roots movement is going to be required to get our country back from the clutches of this beast.

 

It does not have to explicitly say "amnesty" for it to be a raw deal. It is definitely double talk on part of the GOP establishment. At least democrats are now more honest about thier positions. It took them a while but it is clear they are in the tank for their donors. The GOP establishment still has to tell lies. Amnesty? They could care less and would grant amnesty as long as the steady flow of cheap labor continues so their donors can benefit from it.

 

English: At the same time, that does not mean we just flat out open our borders. We can’t do that. We cannot continue to allow immigrants to come here illegally. And in this age of terrorism, we must not let in refugees whose intentions cannot be determined.

Spanish: At the same time, it’s obvious that our immigration system needs to be reformed. The current system puts our national security at risk and is an obstacle for our economy.

**spanish version has no mention of illegal immigrants. Is there no translation for this?

♦ English: We must fix our broken immigration system. That means stopping illegal immigration. And it means welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion. Just like we have for centuries.

Spanish: It’s essential that we find a legislative solution to protect our nation, defend our borders, offer a permanent and human solution to those who live in the shadows, respect the rule of law, modernize the visa system and push the economy forward.

** no mention of illegal immigration again

English: I have no doubt that if we act with proper focus, we can protect our borders, our sovereignty and our citizens, all while remaining true to America’s noblest legacies.

Spanish: I have no doubt that if we work together, we can achieve this and continue to be faithful to the noblest legacies of the United States.

** no mention of protecting borders

it seems like they just translated it to tell both sides what they want to hear.

 

So were you looking for the word "amnesty" specifically, or you couldn't gauge Word-to-intent? Here, let me help you out.

"a permanent and human solution to those who live in the shadows."

The entire thing in Spanish spells it out pretty clearly, but since you have trouble I decided to make it simpler for you. Permanent here absolutely
means "amnesty" as far as the Spanish are concerned.

The difference in context between English and Spanish is so overwhelming I can't believe you didn't get it. Or maybe you just like elected representatives lying in front of your face.

 

Which is why the Right can't win. Kick the Muslims out, kick the Latinos out because they are rapists and murderers, then Nikki Hailey offers an inclusion message that trumps the Donald. Lol! They just can't get their stories straight.

 

Wanna know what I can't wait for? I can't wait until we do pass some kind of Amnesty-like provision, and the Liberals can learn the HARD way, what an additional inclusion of 12 million people will mean. Hint: Looking for jobs won't be any easier.

Whatever happened to being on the overpopulation side of things? Is that not a popular theory anymore or something?

 

In some ways it's a win win for both. Democrats don't mind a little cheap labor either. They aren't entirely innocent of that as well.

 

I agree. Democrats are mainly interested in the political power that comes with immigrants which is why they support annesty.

 

Democrats are more honest? Please, tell your story to someone gullible. Neither the Democrats or Republicans have an honest bone in their body. But on this one, I think you are reading more into it than is there.

 

I don't blame them for not mentioning the exact term "illegal immigrants". There is probably a direct translation for it, but maybe not. However, if I were of Mexican decent, I would probably get tired of hearing that term.

How is the term "those who live in the shadows" in reference to any other group than illegals? If someone is a little slow, perhaps has a learning difficulty, you don't call them a dumbass to their face do you? No, you sugar coat it a little.

 

Just because most Democrats are clones of each other, all chanting whatever the DNC dictates, that doesn't mean Republicans are. For that reason the OP is a total fail.

 

YOU mentioined the word AMNESTY specifically not being there. Of course the reference to "shadows" is towards illegals. It doesn't make your lie conspiracy any more true.

But you guys can pull that tin foil hat on tightly, I'm not playing any further.

 

Of course it does. While it doesn't come out and use the term Amnesty, what else can this mean?

huh? What do you mean a Legislative solution??
We have border laws don't we? What else would we need to look for?

This means drafting up a new policy or set of rules aimed at forgiveness.

Moving further

A permanent, human(e) solution?

A solution, as in closure? Unless you are talking about killing them...which i dont believe was the message, what else is it?

Who lives in the Shadows? Well...illegals of course. this phrase has been used with regards to them countless times.


So if we sum it up we have a need to find a Legislative solution, aimed at illegals which would be permanent and humane.


Unless you want to believe this was meaning Legal Euthanasia for them...well, not sure it could spell anything BUT Amnesty. The fact that this was only phrased this way to the Spanish speaking audience, and clearly not for everyone reinforces this quite clearly.

 

There is no conspiracy. There's either a willingness to pull a hat over your eyes(since we're talking hats), or being vested in political language. Nikki talks as though she's speaking to two different audiences, and gives them two different statements. To the English, she speaks as though she supports a stronger policy that protects our borders, while ensuring legal immigration continues.

The Spanish version is the opposite. It speaks strongly to allowing the Mexicans to come here freely, with perhaps a few loose phrases that might speak to US Sovereignty. Emphasis on "might".

We clearly were sold out, with this obvious and blatant misrepresentation of her views to the English. Ironically, the Mexicans will see the same thing if they viewed the English speech. Or are you still in denial about Nikki talking out of her ass?

 

Did you actually hear the GOP response in Spanish?

 

Let me enlighten you about a certain reality okay? I was at one of the many malls we have where we live. A very large mall. Roughly 75 to 80% were Hispanic, Asian, black, or Indian. Those businesses at those malls are thriving because of that 75%. They take their hard earned dollars and spend them at the food courts and the many shops and department stores. And those places are full most of the time. Even during the week. Whether they are legal or illegal, they still have to work to survive. How many of those businesses in that mall who have employees do you think want to kick them down the road?

As for overpopulation, that is another issue I brought up when I was around ten years old, and my family dismissed me for talking out of my (*)(*)(*). That has always been a concern of mine. But that is a different dynamics, independent of what we are talking about here. Overpopulation growth was never an issue in the U.S. until we started seeing a surge in immigrants. Before that, this country was all about being fruitful and having children. Now all of a sudden it's a problem. But I think it is a problem in a different way for you, versus the problem I see. So that's a different discussion.

 

Ah yea, partly! Political power definitely gives one the edge. But Democrats such as myself don't mind paying for something affordable when an immigrant comes knocking at the door. And I'm sure one of my Republican neighbors down the road isn't going to cuss one out when they knock on the door either. It's all relative.

 

words have meaning. you use different strenghts of a word to connote how strongly you feel about a subject. If you use one set of harsher terms in one speech and another set of terms with a softer meaning in another are you not making two different speeches? One connoting a harder stance on immigration and one a softer stance.

maybe they should call it something other than a translation

 

Why all the fuss, just give them what they want

 

That is where we differ. I don't mind paying a nickel more for produce if it means poor illegals not being exploited like slaves.

 

I guess it means whatever you have decided it means.

 

Well, I'm open to other interperetations if you want to take a crack at it. What do you see in that?

 

I see nothing wrong with their translation. End of story.

I don't really give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if YOUR opinion is different.