Buttigieg on paternity leave since mid-August amid supply chain crunch, infrastructure debate

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  1. Bluesguy

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    I believe there were always acting Secretaries during those time but trying to divert to Trump the best you got?

    Bottom line if you are in some private sector not vital to the company and the entire country job and your employer says OK that is an entirely different matter. That you don't recognize that is extremely telling.

    Do you believe he has some RIGHT to that job and that trumps the entire countries need to get our transportation system back and working. And let's not forget he took to job so he could SPEND HIS TIME with his child and not on the duties of his vital government position.

    If that job is so unnecessary then let's get rid it.
     
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    I have found more people that are a threat to my life and livelihood that have female wives and are males...
     
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    Well go look at the store shelves. Saw a report today on the news about school systems not being able to supply proper school lunches because they can get their normal food deliveries.

    Thank you Mayor Pete, just wait until Thanksgiving, there will be a shortage of large Turkey's being reported, and then Christmas when all the kids wake up and their parents can hand them a picture of Mayor Pete and his child with a note "sorry about Christmas".
     
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    You're not doing yourself any favors. What you're saying is that this crisis occurs while Butti was fully in charge the entire time. I guess what else can you expect from a guy who ruined the city he was mayor of and only got hired because he checked the right box.

    Have you noticed that every person in the Biden admin who tried to fix a crisis only made it worse?

    Biden himself - Afghanistan
    Harris - illegals by the millions
    Butti - ships sitting out at sea with no where to go
     
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    What color are they?
     
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    Amazing how just overnight these shortages appeared especially since they are from regional production facilities in the district they supply. Food products are by far and wide produced in the USA, how did we loose all that transportability in thirty days? I did notice no shortage of flour.
     
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    They come in a variety of colors and flavors.
     
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    We have known since the beginning of the year that this was developing and there were warnings. Flour we produce here and not very labor intensive, I used to call on both flour mills and food production plants.

    "By now you've probably noticed empty shelves or delivery delays for everything from trucks and toilet paper to toys and smartphones. Even supermarkets, restaurants and school cafeterias are missing shipments.

    One reason? A labor shortage along the supply chain, the shorthand term for a series of steps that goods make from farm and factory to store shelves or your door. Simply put, there aren't enough workers to process, move, sell and deliver all the goods coming into U.S. ports across the country fast enough. A national shortage of truck drivers is also making it harder for goods to quickly reach warehouses, which themselves are understaffed. "
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supply-chain-issues-products-worker-shortage/
     
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    Has he been traveling to the ports and manufacturing and warehouse cites meeting industry leaders, union leaders, transportation hub leaders. Has he bee getting first hand knowledge and first hand input.

    Which is it he is at home taking care of his children or at home working? He can't do both full time and with all his attention to them. If he is spending all his time at home working then why is he at home he could be doing his job AT the department of transportation or around the country helping getting this mess cleaned up and directing the federal efforts to do so.

    You are creating the impression he is totally unnecessary for the job so let's get rid of him.
     
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    OK who is the acting Secretary of Transportation who is running the department and if the Secretary is unnecessary then let's get rid of the position. Why keep it? He MAY have worked, it's an unsupported claim, and only part time spending MOST of his time taking care of the children else why did he take off for paternity leave?
     
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    Show me some evidence the dept isn’t fully functional or that something didn’t get done because he’s with his kids.
     
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    You mean besides the crisis?
     
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    How’s he going to personally fix a global supply chain issue?
     
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    Whats next is a question at the heart of the problem of wokeness. Extremists must always be on the cutting edge; its the very nature of extremism. We'll always be asking 'whats next' and these radicals will always have a new and terrifying answer.
     
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    As I said, in my first post, I AGREE with the concept that the Secretary of Transportation should not be AWOL during a transportation crisis. But I don't know that holding a meeting in his office is necessarily any better than just asking for any in the office that have ideas, to speak up.
    Nor do I know how productive, or necessary, would be his meeting with all the different people you list, who are not all involved with the reason for the problem which, as I understand it, has to do with changes in California regulations. Buttigeig certainly should have spoken with Governor Newsome. I don't know that he didn't, do you?
    And, apparently, a solution has been found, in increasing the port's hours of operation to 24/7. Again, I do not know whether Buttigeig was involved or not, in that solution. And, honestly, in this case, I don't know that it wasn't more appropriate for the President to take the point position, as Biden did, and for Secretary Pete to just advise which, again, neither of us knows that he didn't do.

    So it seems to me-- though I won't yet give Buttigeig my approval, without knowing most of the facts-- that you have rushed to a judgement, with a lack of information, yourself. I know, in your mind, any problem involving transportation requires the visible flying around of the Transportation Secretary to meetings and whatnot. But, in these times, a lot of that sort of thing is now handled over computer, with conference calls & such.

    In summation, I'll give you credit for putting forth a convincing-sounding argument; but I will fault it for being deficient in the facts.
     
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    Husband and husband just had 2 babies.

    OK.
     
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    Its not unheard of. See the last minute here...
     
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    Show me the evidence he has been FULLY doing his job while he is FULLY being at at home parent and the results of him doing so.

    Show me how this overriding need of him to be home TAKING CARE OF HIS CHILD does not take a minute away from performing his duties as the Secretary of Transportation of the United States.

    Show me how wonderful the nations supply chain and ports and rails and trucking are working.

    Show me evidence he has been traveling the country to these bottleneck problems getting a first hand view and first hand discussions to come up with solutions to the problem.

    Show me how this green summit he flew off too is a higher priority that finding solutions to the IMMEDIATE transportation problem we are getting engulfed in.
     
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    So your claim is the Secretary of Transportation of the United States has to role in doing so, the United States has no role in doing so?
     
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    I can only assume from your response that you are against anyone in positions of authority being given leave if they have had a new child added to their family. Unfortunately for you, that is the direction in which the country is headed.

    If any company/department is dependent upon the leader seated at their desk every day, then I would suggest there is a very big problem. But in this case, I've not seen any specific problems presented - only that the gay man leading the dept of transportation taking paternity leave for his twins' arrival.
     
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    So there is no evidence his leave has affected the dept or the supply chain issue negatively at all.
     
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    The secretary? No he’s just one man. The entire dept? Some I’m sure. They’re career govt workers.. They don’t need mayor Pete to do their job.
     
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    Of course you cannot manage and hold such meetings on your PC at home at this level, heck I found out how that was a lousy way before I retired and was having to have all the Zoom meetings. To equate the two is folly. Being WITH the people to read them and they can read you and there can be more open discussion because everyone is not on mute.

    And even he said only "major" such communications. While there's a TON of the not so major which support the major and a myriad of things that create the problem.

    He needs to BE in California on site meeting with the people running things and the government officials involved. Look why did he take the paternity? So he could SPEND THAT TIME WITH HIS CHILD. That means time NOT SPENT on solving the nations problems

    Why should the entire country have to move that aside so Mayor Pete can spend time with his child? He doesn't OWN that job nor does the country OWE it to him. What is so important that HE, probably most unqualitifed person the hold the job in modern history, that we the entire country have to wait for him to spend that time with his child before we can have a FULLY involved Secretary of Transportation working on solving the greatest transportation I can remember?

    What exactly is the justification for that?

    What am I missing?

    It's not in results is it? Where are your facts that he has been able to FULLY perform ALL the necessary functions of the position and has been giving his undivided attention to solving this crisis?
     
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    We see the results and it is getting worse. What's his plan? When was the last time he held a press conference to inform the people what he has been doing?

    Now please respond to my post as I do to yours.

    Show me the evidence he has been FULLY doing his job while he is FULLY being at at home parent and the results of him doing so.

    Show me how this overriding need of him to be home TAKING CARE OF HIS CHILD does not take a minute away from performing his duties as the Secretary of Transportation of the United States.

    Show me how wonderful the nations supply chain and ports and rails and trucking are working.

    Show me evidence he has been traveling the country to these bottleneck problems getting a first hand view and first hand discussions to come up with solutions to the problem.

    Show me how this green summit he flew off too is a higher priority that finding solutions to the IMMEDIATE transportation problem we are getting engulfed in.
     
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    Yes, it would apply to any cabinet official, an appointed position which serves at the pleasure of the President. The person doesn't own the position or is owed the position. If they can't be in that position giving their time and effort to it then then need to be replaced. Why would you disagree with that? And I have been clear I don't want him at his desk everyday, like when he is sitting at home you just defeated your own argument there, I want him over on Capital Hill going door to door, I want him over at the Oval Office meeting with that staff, I want him out in California HIMSELF getting a first hand viewing and a first hand hearing of what are the problems and what those people need to get things moving.

    I want him out doing his job instead of changing diapers at home. If he can't do that then he should have been replaced.

    Again what it there was a war going on and he was the Secretary of Defense?
     

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