Eh is Chinese piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) knockoff in 5.56. Iron sights. I treat it as the conscript's weapon it is. Can still tag man sized targets with it at the effective range of the weapon. I'm not saying I'm some sort of comic book character or pro or anything, I'm not going to call my shot and shoot the wings from a fly with it, but if it's the size of a man I can hit it at 200yd which is just shy of 200m.
There is credibility to the AK. There's a place on the internet called "Warrior talk", and it's run by some guys who call themselves "Suarez International". Maybe that rings a bell? They run AK's about as hard as any gun can be run. They are also way into Glocks with red dots. That's what they swear by in training fighters from all over the world, so they could be onto something. I have an AK, and it's a piece of work, but I agree with QLB about its' appeal. I've known a lot of guys who just plain prefer the 1911. If that works for them, that's fine with me. They try to "pull my chain", and I hand over a 33 round magazine. Pull on this.
http://mobile.gunauction.com/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7890490 that's a 30rd. They make 45 Rd drums too. You remember they used to make a full auto kit for colts yeah? I just like it because they aren't tempermental, I'm lazy, and far from expert.
Funny. Scroll down below those nasty pics, and see that it was less than 30. The seller refunded the buyer $10. I've never been a 1911 guy, so I don't know what used to be with them. I did have to qualify with one in the Navy. We were at Subic Bay. Our instructor was a resident Filipino. He was showing us the basic drill, but then he saw something, chambered a round as he turned, and dropped a monkey out of a tree out beyond the range. He turned back to us, and went right on with the training.
Lol missed that. They still do make such mags both sorts even if that dude got (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. Full auto kit too but they haven't made them since that (*)(*)(*)(*) fdr.
I own a Glock 21 (full frame .45ACP) and a Glock 19C (compact 9mm). I don't find there to be a significant difference in felt recoil between the two using standard loads. If anything, the 9mm feels a bit snappier to me. 45ACP operates at a much lower pressure than 9mm. 21,000 psi vs 35,000 psi. So while the 45 is a bigger, heavier bullet, it is also much slower than the 9mm. For SD purposes, shot placement and bullet design will be more of a factor than the caliber. I don't have a problem carrying either of my Glocks, although I find the 19 to be more comfortable and easier to conceal.
I don't care for 9mm and don't own one (except vintage German). While 45acp is a harder hitter, it makes for a larger firearm, less cartridge capacity, and likely less accurate in subsequent rounds. It isn't just which round is superior. If that were the question and it only about ONE shot and SIZE of the handgun doesn't matter, at CLOSE range I'd pick a vintage 12 inch barrel 72mm percussion with a lead ball. Shoot the assailant with a small cannon ball. At CLOSE range the hitting power of the huge old muzzleloaders is quite impressive. But it isn't just about one round, is it? 9mms allow rapid firing a lot of bullets. The initial single-action of many 1911 design 45s also could be problematical for people who don't shoot often. The 9mm is higher velocity, so longer range accuracy if that ever matters. Depending on ammo, a 9mm has more penetration. For personal carry I have 1911 and single stack baby 45acps if to have a BIG caliber and size doesn't matter. I really don't like the feel of double-stack anything anyway. But for carry I usually just drop a small Ruger .380 with laser grip in my pocket. For CCW, size matters. The bigger the firearm, the more often you're going to leave it behind, particularly in warm weather. The question isn't just about "best caliber." A 44 magnum is a decent round too, isn't it?
My favorite round that I've ever fired pistol or rifle calibre would be the .418 Swiss. Low recoil, beautiful accuracy, great stopping power. To bad it hasn't been made in a hundred years :/.
The .45 is a good caliber and some of my favorite guns are 1911's, that said most will not hold more than 7 rounds plus 1 and when one takes into account the development of ammunition these days a 9mm is every bit as capable and many can hold over twice the number of rounds, something that can be very important in an actual shooting situation. Heck many LEOs are dumping their .40s because of exactly the same reason, the 9mm will get job done as well with the right ammo and can hold more rounds in the mag. Not to mention that 9mm is a heck of a lot cheaper than .45 or .40 cal meaning one get s far more time on the range with lower costs and range time is always better when one gets more of it. I used to think like you back in the day, and with the ammo available back then it was correct, with the development of better ammo a 9mm is the better choice it is why most LEO's and the military carry them.
Oh boy. It was D'Eagle worship awhile ago, and now we're promoting the Tec-9. It's a perfect gun for the bad guys to have, because it can't fire 3 rounds without jamming. You bring your Tec-.45, and I'll bring my .22LR Ruger .22/45. You'll be outgunned. A .22 that works is incredibly superior to a 180mm Howitzer that can't be fired.
I have serious question though, why haven't we made a light calibre SMG that utilizes the ball bearing system of the MG42?
I have a few boxes, tested them out on some gel at the range. The internal damage they would leave is catastrophic.
From the gel tests I've seen, the trocars that break off don't penetrate very deep at all, are quite small themselves, and make very narrow wound channels. The damage done by the remaining core is much less than the damage left by a more conventional hollowpoint. I just don't see where these would be overall more effective.
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Why would I want a Tec-9 in 9mm or .45ACP any of my AR's will outshoot it in any scenario. They are cute toys, but not much use for my purposes. - - - Updated - - - Have not tried them as of yet, will have to get back to on that.
The real world data shows the following: Caliber is not that important. There is a whole lot more to effectiveness than caliber. There are several studies that tabulate real world shootings, both civilian and military. Here is one that is clear: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power Over a 10-year period, I kept track of stopping power results from every shooting I could find. I talked to the participants of gunfights, read police reports, attended autopsies, and scoured the newspapers, magazines, and Internet for any reliable accounts of what happened to the human body when it was shot. I documented all of the data I could; tracking caliber, type of bullet (if known), where the bullet hit and whether or not the person was incapacitated. I also tracked fatalities, noting which bullets were more likely to kill and which were not. The link has the graphs and raw data. Lets compare the "measly" 22 to the "awesome" 45. % of hits that were fatal - 34% for the 22, 29% for the 45 Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.38 for the 22, 2.08 for the 45 One-shot-stop % - 31% for the 22, 39% for the 45 % actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 60% for the 22, 51% for the 45 The incidents involving a 22 fared slightly better, but there really isn't much difference, in fact all the handguns fall into the same general range of numbers as the 22 and 45. Why? Because even though the 22 is small and doesn't have the energy of a 45, its easy to learn, shoot and aim, its easier to handle in the pressure of the life-and-death moment, and that makes up for the slower and smaller bullet. The bottom line is that caliber isn't that important. Pick a handgun you like, are comfortable with, and can use properly and accurately. That's how to create an effective system which puts the bullet in the target - and that's whats really important. But if you really want one shot stopping capability, get a rifle or shotgun, they far outperform every handgun - that's very clear in the data.
You have to know how to look at the data. A one shot stop counts if the perp runs a half mile and then collapses. The 22 stops/kills a lot of people, it just doesn't do so very quickly. There's going to be a compromise between caliber, stopping ability and accuracy. For practical purposes the center is the 9mm.
