California bars State Employees from traveling to Texas over LGBT laws

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    So everyone one whining agrees that we would all be better if California was not a part of the US, right?
     
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    California just violated the constitution you cant bar someone from California from entering other states

    Freedom of movement under United States law

    Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States." As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), freedom of movement has been judicially recognized as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as "right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them."[1]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law
     
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    I've been calling for more state rights for years now. I have no issues if Cali wants to do its own thing, but they need to stop dictating policy for the rest of us. Our Federal government has become a dictatorship of the progressive wing in many ways.
     
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    State employees have every right to travel to Texas. They just have to pay for it themselves. It's not a very smart or unifying position.

    I could see the US splitting up over this eventually when states don't get along and don't meet their financial obligations.
     
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    What a petty, childish, arrogant, and pathetic government that California is run by.
     
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    what other way would they go to another state other then paying for it them selves? Unless it is state government business so California must not ever have any government business to attend to in those states

    so lets say California needs to travel to Texas to pick up a fugitive wanted in their state are they going to refuse to do so because they wont pay for law enforcement to travel to Texas to pick him up?
     
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    I have a better one; will California's publicly funded college sports teams like UCLA be allowed to play games in the banned states? All the coaches are state employees.
     
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    Ridiculus? I think its great! Gulf coast.
     
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    So California's public college sports teams and researchers won't travel to these 8 states?


    And to make their point they discriminate.
     
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    We are supposed to be united?

    The sanctions would be the result of Texas unequal treatment of LBGT.
     
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    They regulate air pollution.
     
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    They do exactly the opposite of discriminate.
     
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    Of course they can. Contrary to the thread title, they are not banning travel to Texas. They are banning state-sponsored travel to Texas. A world of difference and certainly within their power to do so. And no, I don't agree with it.
     
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    They aren't state employees.
     
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    I thought cons were for travel bans
     
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    You bar the funding of the movement. That means you do not pay the wage of the state employee doing it, the travel costs, the hotel costs or authorize any govt expense or time for the travel. That state employee can travel wherever she wants on her own dime.
     
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    Great -- now we can sit back and see where this pissing match between the states leads us.....
     
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    It's just a token showing of no actually effect. It banned California state employees traveling to certain states as state employees on state money - unless there is a reason for the trip and then it is allowed - meaning it has no actual effect whatsoever.
     
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    If there isn't a reason for their travel they shouldn't be traveling with state funding anyhow.... ?

    #stupidcaliforniagrandstanding ?
     
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    oh, the exception will always be when money is involved.
    they'll let the Bruins play in Chechnya and watch a public lashing of gay men if the money is right.
     
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    If you look at guntraders.com, the largest online market place for new and used firearms, ammo and components, nearly all listings state "We do not sell to or ship to California," regardless of whether the item is currently legal for sale in California or not. Who has time to try to figure out what more rights have been taken away from Californians? At one point, a California gun owners group was buying ads on guntraders.com pleading with merchants to not abandon them.

    The Democratic Party is - and always has been - adamant that minorities and the poor be banned from having firearms. Originally, Democratic laws called for any black even touching a firearm was hanged. Now the method they pursue is wanting huge fees and taxes so poor people can't affording firearms. If you look where the greatest restrictions against firearms exist it is Democratic controlled areas with large minority populations.
     
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    Exactly. That's why it really has no real effect whatsoever. It is just grandstanding for a special interest group.
     
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    Years ago there was a battle between Texas and Oklahoma state police over tickets. Oklahoma used to line up troopers to give tickets to vehicles with Texas license plates. It wasn't long before Texas retaliation in-kind, though far more Texas vehicles have to travel thru Oklahoma than Oklahoma tagged vehicles have to travel thru Texas. I was told that many trucking companies often sent trucks out of the way to avoid Oklahoma entirely and there was a big campaign urging Texas motorists to gas up before entering Oklahoma - and then not stopping for fuel or food until out of Oklahoma to hit the Oklahoma business community - and therefore also tax base.
     
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