California Gay Therapy Ban

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by airhero, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    They haven't proven anything. It doesn't work. The only thing they have proven is that teens taking part in this crack pot fake therapy have an extremely higher suicide rate.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You are correct. It isn't worth debating one iota.
     
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    funinsnow Banned by Member Request

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    The # of teens who go into repair therapy is few to start with and there's no proof it causes suicide in teens. Most homosexuals and lesbians who committed suicide never went to repair therapist so your statement is wrong. But again, if a homosexual commits suicide then the disguised blessing is taht it brings down rates of gay/lesbian sexual behaviors :toilet:. Impotence is good for homosexuals as it ends their sex lives and gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are comparable to drug junkyism. Anyhow, homosexuals and lesbians need to be offended with truth that their sexual behaviors are useless and worthless. Transexuals need to be offended with truth that sex changes are mutilations which must be abolished. If offending homosexuals, lesbians and transexuals with truth causes some to commit suicide then the suicides again are a disguised blessing.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should read my post. I said teens involved in reparative therapy have a higher suicide rate. Backed up with fact. Do some research.

    Also the only useless argument here is yours.

    You can't control other peoples lives. That's what frustrates you the most isn't it? That for all your talk you can't do anything about it? That people will continue on living their lives happily while you focus on hate?

    Here's something special for you.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/18/14537805-defense-of-marriage-act-ruled-unconstitutional-by-second-appeals-court

    DOMA ruled unconstitutional for the second time.
     
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    funinsnow Banned by Member Request

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    Gay/lesbian marriage is to me a minor topic, so don't care about DOMA. But what you said about repair therapy raising risks of suicide among gay/lesbian teens is propaganda by gay/lesbian groups and best to distrust gays/lesbians on gay/lesbian sexual behaviors :toilet: just as it's best to distrust drug junkies on drug junkyism. If in future it can be predicted an unborn baby would be gay, lesbian or worse a transexual, then aborting them is the right thing to do. Gays/lesbians commit suicide because many suffered sex abuse and sex abuse is major cause of homosexuality even if gay/lesbian groups deny it.
    If a homosexual is impotent, then that would end his sexual behaviors. Gay/lesbian groups are apologists for homosexual coward Stephen Starr who committed sex abuse on retarded 19 year old boy and gay/lesbian groups are apologists for Harvey B. Milk who committed homosexual statutory rape on 16 year old boy in 1964-that boy committed suicide in 1980 when he was 33 years old. My guess is that the boy committed suicide in 1980 because of homosexuality and sex abuse done by Harvey B. Milk.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Yes, parrot your impotent argument over and over, with no backing and no rational basis.
     
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    Trinnity Banned

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    If a teen wants therapy and the parent(s) take him/her, they can get it and no law can stop it.

    Why?

    Doctor/Patient confidentiality.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Youve presented no facts. Just baseless claims you proclaim to be fact.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Trying to change a person's sexual-orientation, is something that definitely should be banned.
     
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    Hmmm lets see why that doesn't work.

    Parents take 14 year old boy who has told them he is Gay to the psychotherapist who offers "Reparative Therapy" for treatment. 4 years later the 18 year old boy reports the illegal treatment to the appropriate authorities and files civil suit- and the therapist loses his license(and practice), and his malpractice insurance has to pay thousands of dollars in compensation.

    Or people could follow the law and not take their kids to quack therapists.
     
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    Yep. Indeed.
     
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    funinsnow Banned by Member Request

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    Here's added thoughts to rerun topic. Using Johnny-C's logic-let's ban trying to change a pedophile's sexual orientation in having interest in pre-puberty girls. Again, lesbian and homosexual behaviors :toilet: involve playing with faeces and it's best for gays and lesbians to be celibate even if orientation doesn't change until a cure is found be it shot, pill or surgery for homosexuality. It's predictable gay/lesbian groups would repeat mantra about gay/lesbian behaviors which is same as mantra by drug junkies defending crack smoking. Homosexual and lesbian behaviors are useless :toilet:, often result of sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth and comparable to drug junkyism. Transexuality is worse and sex change maimings should be made illegal.
     
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    I mean this in all sincerity.

    This quote should be used by the anti-homosexual movement. This quote embodies everything that the anti-homosexual movement believes.

    Re-quote it proudly and often.
     
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    The above expresses nothing but ignorance, bigotry and homophobia. So be it.
     
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    And if that therapy is, say, "Waterboarding to cure being a negro"?
     
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    funinsnow Banned by Member Request

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    You got 2 part right. What was wrote by me is bigoted and homophobic truth that homosexual & lesbian sexual behaviors :toilet: are comparable to smoking crack and drug junkyism. People who do gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are more likely to be drug junkies, eating disorders and so it goes. Disgusting stuff are gay/lesbian sexual behaviors and homosexuals need to hear disgusting truth about harms of gay/lesbian sexual behaviors though they can't tolerate it. Transexuals need to be told that sex changes are mutilations which must be abolished and that they're mutilated people. If transexuals commit suicide because they can't tolerate truth being told about transexuality being useless, then again that is a 'disguised blessing'. Abolishing sex changes and finding a cure for homosexual/lesbian behavior is what makes world a better place.
     
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    It's a big mistake to cater to the sexual confusion of sick people. They need help.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    And you can't take that fact that your argument is absolutely useless and impotent.

    You can't do a single thing to restrict the freedoms of other citizens, be they gay or otherwise.

    Your argument holds no water, is not backed by anything other than your opinion, and falls apart under the smallest amount of scrutiny.

    Rage all you like, it doesn't change a single thing.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    It's a big mistake to believe that you can control or dictate the freedoms of others based on who they fall in love with.
     
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    why?

    Seriously; why?

    If a parent(s) feels that their child might just be confused for wanting to swing on the same side then why not offer to help?

    It would come down to subjectivity. If the counselor decries gay sex as evil and you would go to he$$ then that's over the top.

    If they simply want to see if there might be some other reason that the girl/boy want to engage in same sex intercourse then you have a few sessions and no harm no foul. Who knows, maybe the kid was raped and nobody knew. If the kid decides heterosexual sex is what they want then so be it. If they decide that gay sex is what they want then so be it as well.

    Look, a male is born with a penis and a female with a vagina. A penis is intended to be inserted into the vagina. That tends to be the natural order of things. If the owner of the penis decides that he wants to insert it into other openings on another male then the natural reaction is to ask why. It does not make the person evil or anything but a parent would at least like to see if something happened.
     
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    How would you feel if gay parents insisted their child go to a therapist in order to change their child from 'straight' to 'gay'- would you consider that a normal parental perogative?

    yes- therapists can help children deal with their sexuality. But a person can wait until they are 18 and decide for themselves if they want to do some quack 'cure' for their sex issues.
     
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    since a gay couple would view their behavior as normal for them then yes, like with the cross dressing articles and hormone therapies which have been posted here, then I would expect them to want to bring the child to see why the child was like 96.6% of the population and not like them.

    If I like Italian food then I would try to get my child to like it as well.
     
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    Sec you got it right by mentioning homosexual rape. Homosexual rape in youth esp. repeatedly is a major cause of homosexuality because to repeat if a boy is homosexually raped such as by priest in youth, then likelihood is more that he'll do gay activities :toilet: vs. if he wasn't. Any1 who denies this is dishonest. Also people who do gay/lesbian behaviors are more likely to be antisocial. Methew Wayne Shepard had the rude habit of cutting in line in front of retirees and women with kids while shopping. Methew Wayne Shepard was a drug junky who mixed Ecstasy with antidepressants, chose Univ. Of Wyoming out of all colleges he could get into but then put it down and 2 months before his death, Methew Wayne Shepard did assault & battery on bartender and the next day he falsely accused bartender. Homosexual and lesbian sexual behaviors are inferior. Transexuality is even more inferior with sex change mutilations. 1 doesn't need to be religious to understand that homosexuality and transexuality are inferior. Mrs. Linda P. Harvey of Mission America has discussed link between homosexual rape in youth and adult homosexual :toilet: sexual behaviors and lesbian behaviors.
     
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    Now you really confuse me. Are you saying you would take your child to a therapist to learn Italian food?

    Or are you saying you would approve of gay parents forcing their child to go to some quack therapist who promised to change their childs orientation to gay?
     

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