Call the President and declare a war, and let's get on with it.

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by CyberCynic, Jul 16, 2013.

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Are we at war yet that requires a new constitution?

  1. no

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  2. I do not know

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  3. We may be heading there

    9 vote(s)
    28.1%
  4. yes

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  1. Mac-7

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    You live in an alternate reality to what really is.

    It is the black race hustlers from Obama on down who are attempting to start a race war in America.

    Blacks are rioting in the streets and Eric Holder is stirring them up by suggesting that white America is racist when it isn't.

    Your side is desperately searching for justification to a war of genocide against conservative white America and No Limit Ni^^a is just one of the issues you are using.
     
  2. Junkieturtle

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    You can't use someone's words against someone else who didn't say them.
     
  3. Alwayssa

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    LOL Yea, blacks are rioting in Georgia, Mississippi, East Texas, Arkansas, Chickago, The Bronx and Harlem, Houston, Dallas, and a whole of other cities that police depaertments are overwhelmed.

    Yeah right, some reality that only comes from watchinig movies.

    Meanwhile, you accuse others of race baiting and yet your own post is a prime example of race baiting. Funny how that works and that is reality here.
     
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    Baja Arizona... Google it...
     
  5. Mac-7

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    I have not race baited.

    It is the left that is drumming up emotion based on race.

    Whites have done nothing wrong yet we are the targets of anger from the true race baiters in our society such as Attorney General Eric Holder.
     
  6. Libertarian ForOur Future

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    So did Martin Luther King & Ghandi also poke sticks at the pit bull? Did Martin Luther King warrant the attacks he received? You've yet to make a statement on any of that, especially considering your avatar. I would imagine you'd jump right onto that band wagon. No, you simply take the one aspect and run with it rather than take on the full statement, per usual, then make it into some racial BS. Typical...

    Here's what I'm not buying, the amount of neo-liberal BS that is filling the air waves, the amount of neo-liberal BS that is being perpetually taught to our kids in school. Why is it so hard to get through your skull that the walls that have been constructed around you are crumbling? Folks are yearning for liberty & freedom, all around the world. It's not just in the US, it's all through out this world. The sooner you start to realize that this is the case, the sooner folks can start coming together and making decisions for the future.

    The path this country has been on isn't working anymore. It is time for a change, change that neither one of the two major political parties will bring anytime soon.
     
  7. Alwayssa

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    So you are saying one out of how many sucession proposals constitute it is only lefties?
     
  8. Pollycy

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    "Alternative constitution"? No, all we need is the United States Constitution exactly as it is written! Obviously, we can amend it as needed, but it must be rigorously adhered to, right down to the last word and letter at all times! That is especially true for the all-important 10th Amendment, which states clearly that everything not specifically detailed as being the responsibility one of the branches of the Federal Government belongs entirely to the individual STATES of the United States. This drives the lovers of bureaucratic, centralized government crazy, and they never tire of trying to destroy the 10th Amendment while they ignore or run roughshod over the rest of the Constitution. This is especially true of socialist Libocrats -- Comrade Obama's regime....
     
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    No you made the claim it was about Obama being elected.... I pointed out your error.. You used to be a better poster what happened? Whats bringing up things people never said and then demanding they defend a position they never took?
     
  10. danielpalos

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    Thank you for presenting that point of view; there must be no basis to delegate War Powers if our federal Congress cannot justify war time tax rates. The War Powers Act must apply as a Standard fixed by our federal Congress for such purposes.
     
  11. CyberCynic

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    The black people are desperately poor, and we learned that they could not keep an ambulance in working order for Mandela. If an ambulance takes more than fifteen minutes to arrive to a call by a black person in AmeriKKKa, the NAACP asks for a federal inquiry.

    It is kind of foolish to believe that a constitution that was written a hundred years prior to the establishment of the sociology and economics disciplines is adequate for a society that has a modern communications system - you have no idea how much congress is getting away with because they know you cannot keep track of them. Congressmen only work three days a week; and only if you lived on welfare, like me, could you sit and watch C-Span and realize how they do it. I hope you are working hard and love your job - sucker!
     
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    What you are describing is that we do not agree to it, and for some reason you, and a lot of other people, believe that if you keep saying that that eventually people will understand it as perfectly as you do. We have official government people demonstrating that they do not agree to what it means, and we define it as liberal and conservative interpretations - that means we do not agree to it; and that means it is not working. And it is not working because it is inadequate for a modern society.

    Have you ever read your state constitution? Every citizen is responsible for understanding their state constitution - you know??? If you have and you claim to understand it you are very weird - they are all a mess. They do not meet the standards of systematization that expect in a modern sophisticated society.

    The problem that you have is that you have no idea how a modern sophisticated system would look like. For the people who were taught that the United States was founded by unjust slave owners, it should not be that difficult to realize that a just constitution needs to be written. It should not be that difficult for elite intellectual secularists to recognize that corrupt politics is the result of inadequacies of the social contract system. It should not be that difficult for humble pragmatic conservatives to recognize that the government, like a business, needs to be reorganized, so as to deploy efficient techniques developed during the course of its evolution. It should not be that difficult for political pundits to recognize that "political gridlock" is the result of the politicians' need to be known doing something; otherwise, the constituents would realize that the politicians are over-compensated. It should not be that difficult for the sophisticated citizen to recognize that if the Founders of the United States were tasked with authoring a constitution enriched with the communications systems that we have today, that they would probably write it differently.

    It should not be that difficult for the atheist to recognize that our constitutional system is inadequate, because it is based on philosophical information a hundred years prior to the establishment of the social sciences, and has perpetuated corruption to the point that the racist system put a black man in the driver's seat to crash it
     
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    The military will be composed of people who volunteered to serve the government, mostly in the recent past.
    So I don't see the military siding with the rebels.
    Especially since the "rebels" will probably be some right wing racist extremist nut jobs.
    Do you really see a popular sentiment for revolution sweeping the country?
    Any attempt at revolution in this country is doomed from the start.
    The political system affords the people enough input to insure that the majority of the population will always support the government.
     
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    No it isn't. Our Founding Fathers practiced Object Orientation before the Information Age provided us with that terminology. What isn't covered in our Constitution and Bill of Rights?
     
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    The rules for the courts, and prosecution of justice. The rules for the Congress are not apparent, a few years ago, we went through what was called, "reconciliation."
    Do you know all the rules that the Congress goes by? Do you believe your Congressional representatives work as hard as you do?

    A new constitution would have a better description of the President's job, and a better description of the bicameral legislatures. Because we understand society and commerce many times better than they did in the 1787, we can assign the parts of the economy better to the obligations of the representation. They had it right that the House should control revenue, but if you read the Constitution, you know that each legislature has equal footing to pick at parts of the law.

    The President can now be limited for immediate emergency orders, and respected opinion on the state of the union more often than once a year.

    The Bill of Rights is easy to pick apart, as well - you cannot yell, "fire," in a crowded movie theater. And isn't there something about twenty dollars??? That seems a bit dated. And how about the Second Amendment; that definitely needs to be understood as having regulation - you cannot own a rocket grenade.
     
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    Central America is full of them.
     
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    Easily done. Move to Beirut, or rural Afghanistan, or the Congo. Enjoy.
     
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    There are no libertarian states in the world. In fact, one such state has never existed.

    Also: I don't see your name on North America. It's just as much mine as it is yours. :wink:
     
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    Bravo- It drives me up the wall how people pull ideas out of other people's rhetoric, and present it as fact.
     
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    From both sides.
     
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    The federal constitution I am writing is probably as Libertarian as can be - but that is federal. When you get to the states - I think a Libertarian polity is going to be difficult, because the states are going to be charged with defining their culture, and will be tasked with demonstrating that the state maintains the defined culture.
     
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    The victimhood white supremacists like this display are laughably pathetic. What a bunch of chicken little, butt hurt, whiny babies. It not the blacks fault, its not the Mexicans fault, its not the gays fault....You have no one to blame for your (*)(*)(*)(*)ty life but yourself.
     
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    Well then, let me say Thanks, we loved our medics and they saved more than one of my buddies and men, often at major risk to themselves, some of whom happened to be black, in fact one our medics was also black. See why I thought your comment about patting them on the head was classless, I get it, we all get wrapped up in the moment of arguments, but I would have expected better from you, I will just write it off as a slip in judgement.
     
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    The US Army, Marines, Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are the best fighting force on the planet and in History, and it has multicultural for many many years now.
    Interesting that you would speak of History, one of my favorite subjects, especially military History and mention people using opinions, due to the fact you proved that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the Roman Army and their decline. Read More, Post Less.
     
  25. CyberCynic

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    I can guarantee you that white people can do community, and larger societies, without the blacks, Mexicans, and gays. And I can guarantee you that blacks, Mexicans, and gays cannot do peaceful and prosperous community and societies without white help - Guaranteed.

    Blacks cannot organize a basketball team - just ask Jay-Zzzz, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson.
     

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