This is where you provide me with a specific letter (other than X or Y) that a person can have that breaks the binary system (and show that the system is non-binary)... Male: XY Female: XX A few 'abnormalities' stemming from the above --- XXX, XYY, XXY, XXXX Do you see a Z or a Q or a D or any other letter anywhere in there??
Wikipedia dismissed on sight. You cannot use Wikipedia as a source with me. There is no such thing as "non-binary" or "genderqueer". You cannot define it. You cannot provide me with any letters used in sex chromosomes other than X or Y.
He already did. Because he can quantify it, unlike the meaningless term "non-binary person". Another diversion attempt on your part. FOCUS! "The web" is not an authoritative source. --- You have yet to define "non-binary person". I have already shown you why there is no such thing. You wish to remain irrational, and that's your issue.
Yes, they are. You can have multiple different systems that are each binary systems. For example, binary code (0's and 1's) and sex code (x's and y's). Correct. Binary code has two options (0 or 1). Sex code has two options (X or Y). Labels that people give themselves are not sex chromosomes. Within sex chromosomes, there are only two options (X or Y). There is no such thing as "full male" or "full female". There is just male (XY) and female (XX). Correct, there are only two sexes. There is no 3rd option. There are still only X and Y sex chromosomes, regardless of how difficult it may be to determine male/female or the presence of both sex organs due to an abnormality ("error" in the "code").
Binary code has 0's and 1's in it, just as sex code has both x's and y's in it. There aren't any numbers other than 0 or 1 in any string of binary code. There aren't any letters other than x or y in any string of sex code.
... which is the only sensible way to speak with regard to this topic. male AND female are made up of chromosomes. Nope. X and Y, and that's IT. List a third letter other than X and Y that is used... Here's your big chance!! Correct, but irrelevant. All that is relevant is that X and Y are the only two options, ergo a BINARY system. Correct, but irrelevant.
I don't think they understand what binary means. The third option they keep bringing up is hermaphrodites, and they do exist but they are on the binary.
Well always really doing is taking something real and comparing it to something fake. One could do that with anything if gays are real then leprechauns must be real. It's a complete absence of logic.
Well the whole thing is they exist as identities but you can identify as a pixie or a dragon or a purple gorilla from outer space. It doesn't mean those things exist. You can also identify his things that do exist like a wolf or a peach it doesn't mean that's what you are
Yup. The binary is male and female. The "third option" is "both", which necessarily implies a binary system. Nothing else has been provided thus far. I can come up with all sorts of combinations: XX XY XYY XXX XYYY XXXX However, they all solely make use of X's and/or Y's... Binary.
Yeah they don't know what that means or it's selective. Someone brought up binary code and I pointed out that 8-bit binary gives you 256 choices. Then I asked about genetics is there a z chromosome is there a w chromosome. I didn't get an answer for that one either
I do remember an article many many many years ago suggesting there are 23 sexes [maybe it was a different number]. It was based on the idea that not all chromosomes are the same. Some could be xx and others xy. I have no idea if that is buried in the current thinking.
That sounds like an interesting read and if you could remember anything else about it I'd look for it. I found one by scientific American that says that two sexes is too simplistic so that'll be an interesting one to read.
I would guess it was Life Magazine about 1974. LOL! I have always wondered if there was anything to it.
Seems to me that people think too much about it. If your the kind of person that impregnates others you're male regardless of how masculine or not that you are and if you're the kind of person that gets impregnated you're female It really is simplistic. But I'm not a sexologist.
What about men who don't produce sperm and women who can't get pregnant? The idea of male and female genitalia is easy enough. But sexuality is another matter altogether. That is the issue at stake. Having made an informal 8 year survey and study of human sexuality, it seems clear to me that there is no such a thing as normal. Fetishes are the dead giveaway. For example, there are men who get aroused if a woman's third toe is longer then her second toe. That is NOT a choice LOL! It isn't even sexual. It shows that there are much deeper processes in play. I have come to believe this is true for all of human sexuality. We all have drives and desires that are not explained simply as male or female. It is much more complicated than that. So if we can't even identify the source of minor fetishes, how can we possibly address sexuality in general? One interesting discussion I had with a young lady working on her Ph.D. in related matters [neurobiology]: Some fetishes are really just a simulated form of rape. What I find most interesting are the women who get excited by this.
You didn't ask about men who couldn't get pregnant so what about them? Oh definitely sexuality is an entirely different thing I agree with this statement too. Yeah I agree sexually is really quite a range of all sorts of things. Male and female though are sexes not sexualities. Case and point I'm a gay man and when I'm intimate with my partner becoming pregnant is something that never crosses my mind. That's something you need to be concerned with if your are with a female and you are a male. It doesn't matter if you are aroused by brachydactyly, or if you do puppy or pony play. The concept of a power dynamic in sexual intercourse is rather common. I get both sides of it. Being out of control can be interesting same with dominating. Consider the extreme S&M
Better not the only ones I'm confused about it. It strikes me as a little more than a fashion statement. Or a way to have the mistake of being in the LGBT without actually being LGB or T
