CAN WE GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

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  1. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    If by controlling them you mean helping them with healthcare daycare pay parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and ID card to and illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich . You are totally missinformed....
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    They have been totally obstructed for 50 years. Except for Obamacare. And no.
     
  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, think about it. You'd probably have to have the federal government running the elections for president. (Unlike the current system which is managed by the states)

    Imagine how contentious elections could become then, and all the allegations of fraud.
    It could be enough to rip the country apart.

    In some ways, a decentralized election system is more stable.
     
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  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Biden's cabinet will be the real ones running most of the show of the presidency, since Biden personally isn't so much up to the task.

    The more radicals in the party might only be given some of the less meaningful token cabinet positions.
     
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  5. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Good regulation of capitalism is a necessity. Have you noticed the GOP has a corrupt deregulation bubble and bust economic meltdown every time they get 8 years? Wake up and smell the coffee. Control and ownership my butt.
     
  6. Thedimon

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    It’s not about any party.
    If Democrats controlled the senate during Trumps term, they would be able to completely cripple his presidency.
    Senate is the whole point of the electoral college. Without the senate, a US president would run this country literally on his own.
     
  7. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Because they are totally misinformed and only listen to propaganda.....
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Don’t forget - bidens family is very corrupt. They’ll be the influencers too.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, because such things would ensure that everyone entitled to vote would be able to exercise their franchise.

    And Republicans do not want that. If they can't cheat they can't win, they admit it themselves

    My recollection may be faulty but I think you are one of these favoring third parties. The EC is without doubt the major reason third parties are unable to function in this country
     
  10. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you don't understand.

    Passing a law does not ensure rights. You can say in a law this is how something is going to go, but it does not.
    It is how those policies are put into practice and implemented that matters.
     
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  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we cant get rid of the Electoral College unless we pass another law that says in order to be a candidate for potus you have to win at least 35% of the primary vote.
     
  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems Democrat states refuse to implement measures to secure the integrity of their elections.

    Some of the election policies are practically asking for fraud.
     
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was talking about before this election.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you guys controlled congress, you could have passed new laws.

    you now have 30 of the 50 state legislatures, go ahead and pass new laws.
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You misunderstand how voting is done. We have a TWO tier system. First, you REGISTER, then you vote.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    becuase we dont want some fascist pig winning the presidency with only 35% of the vote.
     
  18. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're changing the topic.

    But okay, I'll bite. It depends exactly what you mean by "regulation".
    Simply saying that more "regulation" (as a general vague term) is good is simply ludicrous.
     
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  19. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well great, then maybe your states can prove they are not fraudulently counting the votes.

    This will require no more mail-in ballots, and everyone to have to show voter IDs.

    I'm sure you will allow Republican-approved independent observers in to monitor the elections as well.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you think they are frauds, prove it.

    your claim, your burden.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You said Primary, this seems to apply to the General.

    Primaries aren't really in election law, they are Party functions, yes? They follow election protocols but they're really not even government things, are they?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Primaries are a choice by the states.

    not required by Constitution.

    we could flip a coin if we wanted.
     
  23. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not our responsibility to prove it. It's your responsibility to prove there are some decent and reasonable measures in place to prevent fraud.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not really.

    the states get to choose their own election laws.

    dont like it? pass a law.
     
  25. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can choose the way you run your own elections, but don't expect another state to respect those results.

    That's why there is a winner-take-all system and the Electoral College.
     
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