Can We Talk...How Has A Black President Worked Out For The USA?

And at the same time I can't think of very many, if any, non-African countries who have had a President who is seen as a black person. Yay America.

Too bad it wasn't a black who isn't so obsessed with a nutty agenda.

I don't think Obama has made it any easier for a black to get elected in the future. And it doesn't look like he has moved blacks toward jobs as much as toward greater welfare checks. Maybe he doesn't LIKE blacks, come to think of it. Has anybody EVER thought of that?

to save libs the effort:

"Ex-lib, you're crazy."
"Ridiculous."
"Bush did it."
"You're brainwashed by Fox."

 

This is not really about Obama's beliefs. This is about the perception of others and whether or not xenophobia still controls this nation...

 

Neither was President Bush ... but I never seen anyone ask fro his Birth Certificate, or his Grades, question his patriotism or slam his Wife.

... Well

 

The fact that Herman Cain was well received by conservatives should tell you that Obama's color is the last thing on the minds of those of us who want him out of the White House.

What are you talking about??

How can "In God we Trust" bother people who have no God or faith?? While the vast majority of Americans tolerate political correctness concerning homosexuals, it seems that the liberal horde could tolerate a few words that you don't believe.

Pretty juvenile to imply that Obama isn't well received because he is black. Obama is a far left progressive and being black doesn't change that.

 

Part of the reason for starting this thread was to question if having a Black president actually moved us forward or backward regarding race relations?

Some people will gain more acceptance while others gain more hatred so I'm not sure of the net gain/loss...time will tell including if he is re-elected...

 

That is EXACTLY the issue. The foundation of America IS America.

Obama said he wants to change the foundation. Like many of the drones of Liberalism, he doesn't realize that America IS its foundation. Change its foundation and it is no longer America.

That would be the very definition of anti-American. You could CALL the "new country" America, but it wouldn't be- it would no longer equal its original foundation.

 

If he's re-elected it will tell me that not enough voters are paying attention to what the hell is going on.

 

Maybe in this election we can get beyond color and vote for someone who actually has had some form of executive experience before becoming President.

 

You know ... I'm Black and I've tried to convince myself that his Color has "nothing" to do with all the hate being spewed ... but then all doubts are removed when all you need to do is YouTube to see for yourself the "actual" words coming from the mouths of real people.

Then it's indisputable, undeniable, NOT misquoted and without question their own WORDS!

Why do I say this ... because it their own words and actions that make it a FACT!

 

If there's anything we've learned ... being elected to a political office doesn't mean you have "executive leadership" abilities.

 

Your question goes to the heart of this debate; if someone appears Black they will be labeled Black...or whatever color, by those who label and struggle with xenophobia.

What do you believe would happen if Obama demanded that people consider him 50/50 or mulatto? One thing I will guess is that the Black community will abandon him as being embarrassed of being Black. If true, this tells us about our society and how race remains an issue...

 

Yes, but liberals are VERY intolerant-that is why they crow so LOUDLY that are are TOLERANT. If you ARE something you don't have to announce it all the time-people will see it.

And yes that is very juvenile to imply that Obama isn't well received because he is black. It's ignorant, in fact.

Herman Cain would have made a magnificent President. Very likely the kind of black President we SHOULD have for our first one. Of course, come to think of it, Obama isn't really black anyway. He may look it, people may think of him as black, but we all know he really isn't.

So actually, the first black President is yet to come. If Obama was a Republican President, would Democrats accept that he is our first black President, I wonder?

 

You forgot to say in your mind.

You understand you speak for yourself in these matters and that others may not agree with you, right?

In my mind, Bush was much better than Obama and Clinton, as far as character goes.

Clinton lied in a Court of Law and should have been removed from office, if it hadn't been for the partisan politics at the time.

But you are free to disagree.

 

What planet do you live on sir? Or have you been locked in your basement with outgoing internet service only, for 11 years?

 

This thread never tried to compare ethnicity/race to competence.

This thread was meant to explore questions like; How many Americans voted for Obama because he is Black and how many Americans did not vote for Obama because he is Black? And today how do all of these voters think things are going...

 

He's not free to disagree. If he disagrees, it is only because he is FORCED by the philosophy called Liberalism, into denying that he knows the truth about the issue and can then only disagree instead of agree.

You cannot be free if you live by a philosophy that causes you to be dishonest in order to further that philosophy. That is the curse which rests upon the weary shoulders of the Liberal.

 

Surely you've seen this slogan going around; "People voted for Obama the first time to prove they were not racist. People this next election should vote to prove they are not stupid."

 

Ha ha ha, you hit it.

And how about some business experience to boot?

And how about some experience outside the prison of academic thinking?

 

Just because people disagree with you doesn't make them wrong. They simply see things differently.

They become wrong when they can't reconcile their "opinion" with the facts being presented.

 

How many Democrats in Congress, including Obama, supported wars and deficit spending? A president doesn't have much power so all those things you hate about the past 10 years were actually supported by Congress and the American people. Just as Little Bush once said; "there's no problem with a dictatorship as long as I'm the dictator". However, just as with all presidents, it is Congress and Americans who create the path of the government...

 

Charts are easy...anyone can create one and they are meaningless except to the creator. Here's one just for you.

 

It's very difficult to believe you're black. Blacks usually have a certain inherent clever, happy cynicism which you don't seem to have in very many posts. You seem to have that phony hatred that whites so often lower themselves to. (liberal whites most often, perhaps)

But in any case, you're dead wrong. There is so little racism in this country it would tear your head off if you actually knew, I believe.

There is always favor for one's own race, yes. Of course. Just as there is favor for one's own wife, or one's own kids. But that doesn't mean that people hate other guy's wives or their kids, or people in other races.

Sure there's plenty of racism to go 'round. Too much. Some groups have more than others. But until you've seen those words you speak of, come out of the mouths of 150,000,001 Americans, I don't think you can be sure that you're hearing from a majority, and not just hearing isolated groups of bigots.

Oh, one more thing. Some people, in the name of POLITICAL PARTIES will call the other side names. But in many cases this shows them to be ignorant to use race as a weapon, but does not necessarily mean that they actually have anything against this other race. They just know (or hope) that the race weapon will HURT the other guy.

 

Here's something I don't understand; Why is it okay for a Black person to continually exploit the 'N-word', yet if others use this word it is racism?

I think it's this type of double-standard behavior that further drives a racial-wedge between people. If the word is so fricken bad, then STOP using it!!

 

mulatto that was the term I was looking for thanks!

 

Obama sucks, but it has nothing to do with him being black. Bush sucked, had nothing to do with him being white. It's about the person, not the color.