Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

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  1. saltydancin

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    In that Christian Nation parable tradition of once is an accident, twice is a coincidence; here's in releasing malfeasance of a school safety officer doing his job, but not doing too much of it letting people & children get killed in that immaculate drug conception Federal Lynching churchstate of hate lynching enforcement method of protecting & serving gun toting anarchists like Arab terrorists that threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount while in all probability training for Islam flying carpet fables for their second coming thru 9/11 getting Americans killed in multiple locations.
     
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    What the hell do you think Pence is trying to do? Let me guess - the whole gay conversion thing.
     
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    What about it?
     
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    Does ANYONE on here understand you? I mean other than the 21 people who have 'liked' your posts.
     
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    Maybe due to being cross conditioned way beyond therapy cognitive dissonance acceptance of this Christian Nation liberal Islam national religion where even shoot up the schools kids "see" that "do your job, just don't do too much of it" immaculate drug conception KKK churchstate cops lynching enforcement gets Americans killed emulating those burning Bush's patriot act of 9/11 where a 21 gun salute would just baptize thine eyes of the republic like the thieving US Constitution - old glory arsonists they the master race subconsciously admit too.
     
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    Christians have been trying to legislate their faith and have been doing so successfully; see the multiple examples of religious idolatry on capital lawns and state buildings that have been defended by bible belt legislatures despite challenges to their constitutionality.

    Prohibition was a Christian ideal. The prohibition of pot is endorsed by the Christian evangelical right and is a piece of government authoritarianism I am embarrassed to live under.

    The real issue with "Christianity" in this aspect is that people like Pence masquerade Christian ideals as a cover for their pro-corporatist lobby and agenda. See he repulsive ignorance on cigarette smoking causing cancer.

    In fact, the entire premise asserted here with regards to the right wing and their pro corporatist policies and their embrace of capitalist ideals under the guise of Christian hegemony is a gigantic hypocrisy.
     
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    Do these Christian symbols somehow affect freedom of another religion?
     
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    Continental 48?
     
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    Old school reasoning referring to the original 48 states, but then again that's usually what happens when the cross is forced as higher than the flag.
     
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    They are political symbols as well as being anything else you want to claim they are.

    They expend resources to defeat those with other religious beliefs.
     
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    How is it the Christian cross which represents an instrument of torture & death claims to be symbolic of religion; evolved from Islam fabricated misnomers of an immaculate conception doesn't affect freedom of religion ?
     
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    (back from an overseas trip):

    Actually all my posts are concerned with one thing: prosperity for all (which does not mean equality of outcome). I heard recently that the world's GDP, or wealth, is c. US$360 trillion, which works out at c.$40K each - meaning no one need be living in poverty .

    You might try refuting the theoretical basis of my argument that an IMF could fund the rollout of free, nuclear fusion-based energy globally (when the technology is mastered) via money printing, as outlined in my post #1361.

    (Admittedly I am always working from the viewpoint of a world in which an international rules-based system - which does not mean "world government" - has been established, not beyond the wit of human kind, but requiring a much greater sense of human solidarity than exists today).
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    Of course the question posed in the OP is nonsensical or missing the point, like theologians in the middle ages asking how many angels can stand on the head of a needle. etc. because there is only One God, who created this universe, or One Reality (which includes atheists like yourself), which we must all confront, ie, Christians, Moslems, and all the others.
     
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    Do these Christian symbols somehow affect freedom of another religion?
     
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    How?

    Any evidence for this at all?
     
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    The proverbial "chase one's tail" method of problem solving should be recognized as a problem cause rather than a problem solution.
     
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    What usually happens "when the cross is forced as higher than the flag?"
     
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    I would say if you are talking about the ACTUAL teachings of Christ, then being a Christian has more to do with liberalism than conservatism. Jesus was basically a hippy. Love everyone, rich people can't be perfect unless they sell all their possessions and give the profits to the poor, never retaliation against those who attack you, but love and forgive them.

    His teachings have little to do with what most far righters consider to be "Christian". There is a reason that whenever they want to make a point, most conservative Christians will quote the old testiment, and not anything Jesus actually taught.
     
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    I believe it is exceedingly dangerous to tie religion to the state. It gives rise to things like the Ark Experience, which seeks to supplant science with religious studies.

    It is very troubling to me that the evangelical Christian right is so anti-science.

    The problem Christianity and Islam and Judaism has, as the Abrahamic trifecta of danger, is their rigid natures that ignore the changing world around us.

    Creationism and evangelism, which indoctrinates children, is an abhorrent and hideous ideology. It is excruciatingly dangerous and, in my opinion, is child abuse.
     
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    It's a Christian Nation of "serve the Pope or die" that equates to the Christian cross which represents an instrument of torture & death; that is liberal Islam "death to the infidels" of "man is God" .
     
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    How does evangelism indoctrinate children?
     
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    It teaches them to embrace as fact superstition without any shreds of evidence.

    The entire premise of evangelism is indoctrination. Go forth and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and blah blah.

    What a horrifying, authoritarian, tyrannical thing to push on humanity.

    Let me ask you this - what, to you, about christianity explains the reason for life's existence that science doesn't?
     
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    You think that Christians "serve the Pope?" Surely you can't be serious.
     
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    Christianity doesn't have ANY SHRED of evidence? Surely you can't be serious.

    Horrifying, authoritarian, tyrannical? Surely you can't be serious. Are you under the impression that people don't have a choice to believe?

    Well science can't explain the origin of life can it?
     
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    There is evidence Christianity existed. Just like there is evidence Buddhism existed. And all other systems of belief. There is no evidence for the creation myths they propose. No evidence of a god winking everything into existence, no evidence that supports the notion the earth is 6,000 years old, and no evidence to support any extraordinary miracle claims; especially since none of them have -ever- happened in observation.

    People do have a choice - and of course the church is very good at working against that church. By telling children awful things; like you will burn in hell, devils and demons will torture you, those same wicked monsters will invade your mind and heart and spirit. The entire thing is made on a backbone of controlling people via fear.

    Sure it can. And it is working on doing so. It also can explain the "why" we're here also.
     

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