Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

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  1. Ndividual

    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    I know of no laws 'compelling' shopkeepers to 'choose' their customers.
     
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  2. chris155au

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    Sorry, my bad. I thought that you were saying laws that compel shopkeepers to serve certain customers that they may not want to serve. There are laws that compel this as you know.
     
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  3. Ndividual

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    When the words are spoken with the appropriate emphasis it becomes apparent.
     
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    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    Customers choose where they shop, and what you have to sell to one customer cannot be denied being sold to any other customer if they are willing and able to pay the price.
     
  5. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    So you think that a white supremacist scumbag like Richard Spencer cannot be denied?
     
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    There are so much liberals who did not violate the rules of law of the land, I think the same could be applied to Christianity as well.
     
  8. Ndividual

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    No more than anyone else.
     
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    The vast majority of Christians are Calvinist. They believe in original sin. If you believe the most innocent, precious form of life, a newborn baby, is born in sin, that is a hateful, hurtful, infectious thing to believe. It is damaging to the human species and is a hideous form of control.

    I know that because there is no evidence this deity ever existed, nor is there any evidence it is here now.

    You tell me what isn't hateful about the belief that the most precious form of human life is born in sin and will be separate from god for eternity if it isn't washed clean in your hideous ritual.

    Why this artificial insertion of Westboro?



    I don't need to explain this.

    I am under the impression that religion is the main reason circumcision has become a western thing, not sub-Saharan African males.

    It's not a ****ing strange church. It's common place all across America.

    Do you believe in the ritual of baptism?

    Everything.

    The key word you forgot here is yet. Religion doesn't explain it at all.



    Sure they would.



    Not sure if serious.

    It's obvious.

    Basically the entire book of Revelations.

    It's obvious what I meant. why don't you explain it?
     
  10. saltydancin

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    Since it's proclaimed this is a Christian Nation since it became apparent one nation under God with equal justice under law was little more than federal perjury from an Islam Christiananality pedophilia mentality business some 50 years ago might as well be internment under God.
     
  11. chris155au

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    You realise that there are no laws which say that everyone must be served right? Are you saying that there should be?
     
  12. Ndividual

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    Are you saying a grocer could deny someone from entering or purchasing groceries and the individual would/should have no legal recourse?
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    There certainly are laws restricting public accommodations in whom they deny service and whom they employ.
     
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    okay...
     
  15. it's just me

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    The vast majority are Catholic.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, only on the basis of the person being of a certain class. Right?
     
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    Some people make a distinction between Christian and Catholic. Perhaps @Aphotic makes this distinction.
     
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    In the context of the US, yes, that is my understanding and that the only legal recourse is if it can be demonstrated that the denial of service is on the basis of sex/gender, race, religion or sexual orientation.
     
  19. Ndividual

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    Give it a try then.
     
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    Some people should stick to what they know.
     
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    Yes - well, except there are a number of protected classes, not one.

    As civil rights efforts continue, other classes could be added, as they have in the past.
     
  22. chris155au

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    Give what a try?
     
  23. Ndividual

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    Assuming you're employed, start denying service to customers based on something other than sex/gender, race, religion or sexual orientation.
     
  24. chris155au

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    I said that there are no laws which say that everyone must be served. Except maybe a pharmacy which can be life or death.

    Oh surley everything is covered now. What else could possibly be left?
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    LGBTQ is only partially covered.

    There are religious exemptions that even cover medical care, including pharmacies.

    There is a strong movement to expand religious exemptions so that shop owners may discriminate against MORE individuals. This anti civil rights campaign is making progress.

    You are right that there there is no law that says everyone must be served. In fact, the laws covering specific instances are weakening, leaving MORE Americans without rights to the very way our nation distributes goods and services.
     

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