Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

Don't be ridiculous.

 

Not ridiculous to remember the morals and principles at the time the Constitution was written if you are going to recommend going back to the original Constitution. And don't forget that women were third class citizens without the right to vote or control property.

 

I didn't say anything about repealing ALL the amendments, just the 16th and 17th.

 

Exactly.

When you propose to eliminate the source of funding for the DoD, it seems more than appropriate to wonder whether you have some other funding idea, whether you think all nations will go pure pacifist if we do, or ???

 

Except for the fact that I did not.

 

Excuse you?

 

Take your own advice. Stating the original intention of taxes is an exceedingly weak argument.

 

But a good one nonetheless.

 

You proposed eliminating the 16th amendment which is the authorization for federal income tax in your post #1755 where you said, "I maintain that we, as a nation (republic) of 50 States, will NEVER begin to RESOLVE any of our problems UNLESS we repeal both the 16th and 17th amendments. And after that, we should focus our attention of what to do about the Federal Reserve and our fiat monetary system."

Federal income tax is how the DoD is funded.

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionmentamong the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."


So, again, once we eliminate the funding of our federal government, how do YOU propose that we pay for our security and defense - the DoD?

Remember, I gave you some options.

 

He is correct to call for the abolishment of the 16th and 17th amendments.

https://www.freedomabovefortune.com/

 

Perhaps we need to use the term mental disorder instead. Savage wrote that in his book.

To all Atheists. Christians can't harm you. If you worry your head can be cut off, that is the Muslims.


Christians will pray for you. Muslims haul you into a public place and murder you. Keep that in mind as you approve Muslims to arrive daily in America.

 

So, now YOU fail to answer my question, too.

(Michael Savage??? I mean, do you consider ANYTHING he says to be more than schlock politics???)

 

I'm really surprised you can't figure that out without asking. I NEVER suggested eliminating funding the Federal government.
Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution:
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, [unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken].
ALL 50 States and the District of Columbia have a Department of Revenue or State Tax Agency, who would continue to collect taxes from their residents including their Proportion of funding the Federal government.

 

I did not post to answer your questions. I posted to support the man you run down.

Michael Savage is a local on radio. I have not listened to him for many years now but when I did listen to the man, he said much that is totally accurate.

 

I too do not suggest not funding the Feds. I truly want this nation to start to appreciate their own state above the Feds. We know our states never lead us into wars. Even Abe had the choice of not having war. But he waged war. But he was the Feds.

If we had the bulk of taxes flowing to our own states, we could get a handle on this much easier. We need more reforms at the state level too. But to curtail power, not add to it.

 

OK, there's an idea I've never heard before.

Of course, you are not suggesting how the federal revenue would be divided between the states.

Who are you attempting to benefit here?

My state (and a few others) has no income tax. How are you proposing that my state meet federal revenue requirements?

 

I didn't "run him down".

I asked a question.

You just added your name as someone who can't answer the question.

 

That is not even SLIGHTLY an answer to my question.

How would the DoD get funded if federal income tax was killed?

Amendment 16 is NOT about how we start wars. It's about how we fund the DoD (and the rest).

 

Oh god.

DOD will be funded by sales taxes. We know of that tax as the FAIR TAX.

 

i am tired of the Democrats declaring as were it factual that I can't answer questions. I can answer far more questions than you can. I can answer questions you do not know the answer to so you ask me your questions. You only ask me since you believe I am the superior source. And I am.

 

Frankly given you pay no state income taxes, no wonder you worry about the Feds. They will do just fine with the FAIR TAX. And all states will pay fair taxes to the Feds. Like they pay fuel taxes to the Feds.

 

That tax moves more of the burden toward wage earners, even toward the unemployed, disabled and retired.

You can try to make exemptions for some of these categories, but the bottom line is that those with sizeable incomes will pay less than what they pay today - meaning the rest will pay more.

 

I believe I stated that you didn't answer the question - not that you couldn't.

In this case, I didn't know the answer, because it had to do with what a specific individual wanted.

I'm not going to assume I know what you (or he) are thinking.

Remember that I even proposed some optional answers!! (Though you probably cut into the conversation after that.)

I'm not trying to trick you, use ad hom, or any other BS.

 

Federal revenue would be collected from each State proportionate to their percentage of the total population.

I would hope to benefit the people of each individual State, and the States too by giving them greater control over ALL government spending.

The citizens of ALL the States, including DC, are liable to pay taxes to fund our Federal government. The primary change would be that you continue to pay an income tax, but to your State Revenue Department rather than the IRS, and money which the Federal government in the past returned to the States would never leave the State, allowing many Federal agencies to be eliminated completely, and others to be reduced in size, cutting the size of the Federal budget.

 

Sure, if by "good", you mean,"vapid and irrelevant".