Canada, US, Ukraine vote against UN resolution condemning glorification of Nazism

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eh, as I said in the other topic, I think Canada and the U.S. were looking more at the free speech aspect (1st Amendment for the U.S. and The Bill of Rights for Canada). Should they have voted against? Hell no. It looks bad on both countries (especially Canada), but at least they didn't vote blindly. That's just my opinion, though.
     
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    The primary source of information :

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    "The killing ballance of the bolshevism! (1917 - 1944).

    During the revolution and the civil war was killed 2 200 000.

    During the years of famine and epidemics (1918 - 1921 and 1932 - 1933) died 14 500 000.

    In forced-labor camps died 10 000 000.

    Punitive expeditions destroyed 6 688 000.

    In the border and occupied areas as destroyed 3 277 000.

    During the years of this war (1941 - 1944) was killed and mutilated 18 000 000.

    Totally 54 665 000.

    12 000 000 of Russians have already pulled through the bolshevik's destruction by yelding themselves prisoners of war.

    Take this leaflet and save yourself before it is too late!"

    So isn't it clear why they 'll never condemn Nazism ?
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    The worst tyrants in 30-40 years it Roosevelt and Churchill. Also Truman. These people are worse than Hitler. Sadists and killers.
    Roosevelt destroyed its own citizens in labor camps and starved its own population. All Japanese Americans were caught like wild animals, and throw them in the camp is much worse than the Nazi concentration camps.
    Churchill even sadistic. In India alone, because of its policy - killing tens of millions of people (again - tens of millions of people). Died of hunger. But other than that were killed by British soldiers much.
    Truman - the only one in the history of a decision to use nuclear weapons.
    However, all Western heads of State - sadists and murderers.
     
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    Wow...You know nothing about Russian history...It is amazing to find someone so clueless...Congratulations!...
     
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    Damn...Yet another person who is totally clueless in history...
     
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    I seem to know far more than you, because you've presented no information at all.
     
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    that includes Putin & Stalin
     
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    Roosevelt has killed 80 million, but you worship him.
     
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    Do you want to Putin was the president of the United States. I knew it.
     
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    no, I want him arrested, tried, and executed for crimes against humanity
     
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    Ahaha. You did not know about all of your presidency - cannibals and murderers? You surprised me. The whole world knows about it....However, I am not surprised. ... You learn the history of television programs with the participation of Senator McCain or Hollywood movies.
     
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    This envy. But you should know that envy - it is a sin .... But .... the United States distorted the concept of sin.
     
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    i don't envy murderers who kill their own people.
     
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    Are you just joking, or do you really believe that?
     
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    So you want to Putin become US president . You do not like maniacs and cannibals in Washington. Understandable desire....But you voted for cannibals.
     
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    no, I want Putin on trial and then executed after his conviction
     
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    You do not have to make excuses. All understand your admiration President Putin. And smart people also maintain your admiration Putin....I understand .... You're afraid of the NSA. And therefore hide his admiration .... You afraid to live in a fascist country the United States.
     
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    Do you believe that Stalin killed tens of millions of people? Or you just kidding?
     
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    No, I'm not kidding, I'm going by historians and famed Russians to prove Stalins guilt.

    How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

    Georgian historian Roy Aleksandrovich Medvedev published in the weekly tabloid Argumenti i Fakti estimated that the death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives (on top of the estimated 20 million Soviet troops and civilians who perished in the Second World War), for a total tally of 40 million.

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn claimed the true number of Stalin’s victims might have been as high as 60 million.

    Most other estimates from reputed scholars and historians tend to range from between 20 and 60 million.

    In his book, “Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954,” I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.

    In “Europe A History,” British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties.

    Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789

    If you don't like those numbers on Stalins work, complain to them on their years of research.
     
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    Now far be it for me to interrupt the scholars in this thread revising the legacies of Stalin, Hitler et al, but shall we actually discuss the premises of the thread?

    Now let's address Destroyer of Illusions and destroy an illusion shall we? Oh its going to be fun. Come on everyone play along with me. Join hands and sing: 115 nations abstained from voting can you guess why?

    Well here's why. If the referendum just did what Destroyer presents it as doing do you really think anyone would have had a problem passing it?

    Oh come now boys and girls they used the word "holocaust".

    However there was also something else attached to this wonderful Russian sponsored resolution....something else Destroyer and the other supporters of Putin, Russia, the motherland and Stalin seem to have forgotten....oh come on guess.... what they won't mention.....


    The resolution also attached and of course I quote from the same TASS article the creator of this thread skipped over the following:

    " urged the member-states to adopt the laws necessary for fighting with racism and to continue taking the steps helpful for the prevention of statements powered by hatred or enticements to violence against the members of vulnerable groups.

    Along with it, the resolution stresses the important of full compliance of any such measures with international norms in the sphere of human rights.

    The resolution also calls attention to an active use of the Internet for the propaganda of racism and xenophobia and underlines the importance of counteraction to it in the format of law and the International Pact on Civil and Political Rights...."

    Oh come now, which one of you Tass quoters, you Stalin lovers, you Putin worshippers, want to explain what it means to limit the use of the internet for "the propaganda of racism and xenophobia".

    Which one wants to step up and give us examples of how we will determine this and censor the internet, hmmmmm?

    Will it be Destroyer perhaps?

    Oh wait, do any of you Putin-Stalin spreaders of joy wish to explain to me what "laws necessary to combat racism" means?

    Oh come on now Stalin supporters, what does it mean to and I quote....." prevention of statements powered by hatred or enticements to violence against the members of vulnerable groups."


    Oh come now do any of you Putinites want to explain? Do you mean l you are enow going to protect gays? Get out. Why of course not. How about Chechnyans? Got yah. Just joking. Hey I know you Putinites will pass laws protecting the opponents of Putin and their rights to go on line and state what they think right? Just joking come now we know better... we feed them radioactive borscht.

    Oh come now. Sorry to burst the bubble of the Putinites on this this thread but the resolution was attached to the holocaust was used as a smoke screen to attach a pathetic, shallow, attempt to push nations to politically censor the internet.

    Gosh Destroyer you seem to have missed that part....

    Hey now could that be why the majority of the world ignored this grotesque exploitation of the holocaust?

    Well now this Jew, me, says, you want to exploit the holocaust to pass or try promulgate fascist attempts to shut down freedom of speech on the internet, don't tread on my family's memory.

    Racism? Vulnerable groups? This is about shutting down one's right to oppose Putin in free speech.

    I would also contend it has to be the height of audacity to come on this board exploiting the holocaust to engage in the very tactics that enabled the holocaust

    What a pathetic attempt to exploit the blood and suffering of Jews, Romas and others.

    Now Boris and Natasha I do trust I contributed to this thread in a cheerful and positive manner.

    Regards,

    Bullwinkle
     
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    i dont admire him, but wanted him arrested, tried, and executed for war crimes
     
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    You surprise me. You refer to the texts of science fiction writers. Such as Solzhenitsyn and R. Medvedev. Incidentally anatatsii in the novel "The Gulag Arhipilag" published YWCA in the United States in 1989 (by the way, is a publishing house specializing in subversive literature for different countries) explicitly states that the novel is an artistic perception of the author. In other words - it's not documentary literature. This is a fantastic literature. It's like a talk about the history of ancient Rome, referring to the movie "Gladiator".
    If you are interested in the truth, read the memo to Khrushchev's "victims of Stalinist repression." I assure you - you are very surprised. (many times I showed this memorandum in this forum. You can find it in the archive forum)
    Your sources are written for propaganda.
     
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