Capitol is on lockdown as pro-Trump demonstrators try to break into the building

Well that was just another of his many lies. Inciting his crowd to march on Congress was not the way to ensure a peaceful transition of power as we have all seen.
He should have done what every other losing Presidential candidate has done and conceded defeat as soon as it was clear he lost. Instead he has pushed unsubstantiated conspiracy theories about having the election stolen from him. Even as the storming of the Capitol was happening, rather than condemn the rioters he praised the mob and continued to say he had won and the election was being stolen.
It has taken 24hrs and threats of impeachment or invocation of the 25th before he was prepared to condemn the violence and admit he lost.
And still you defend him.

 

And you'd have them stop using it in the context of riots?

 

I asked about were burning of buildings including police stations, federal buildings, historical churches, looting of private businesses?

I'll assume your dodge is you admittance there were none of those as opposed to when the left wing anarchist rise up. And yes that many of those up in arms now have been silent for years and in fact promoted the rioters and protesters. That is why the right wing extremist finally said enough we will act in kind. And now we have it on both side and those who did not speak out before were part of the problem.

So what do we do now? You think defunding police departments around the country is a good solution? You know the Mayor of DC had just sent a letter to the DHS refusing assistance for this?




Signed a letter last June DEMANDING all federal forces leave the city. And now she wants DC declared a state and her put in charge of the National Guard.

Remember during the Kavanaugh hearings and the leftist were beating on the doors of the Supreme Court trying to get it? Seems the Supreme Court Police can do a better job of keeping anarchist out than the Capital Police.

 

I have condemned him and until you acknowledge that there is no purpose it trying to have a discussion.

 

Lol... this idiot who took order from the Chinese are now giving Americans lecture about democracy.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/le-bro...pporters-attacking-capitol-nba-000956386.html

 

More whataboutisms with added strawman.
I have never supported defunding the police. I am a supporter of law and order.

By the way, it appears Fox News was right.

https://www.gpb.org/news/congress-e...21/01/07/report-of-us-capitol-police-officers

 

I acknowledge that you have condemned him but as Yardmeat showed yesterday trying to get you to do it without mentioning BLM or ANTIFA in the same breath is akin to getting blood from a stone.

 

For profit companies run them to make money.
Banning posters for breaking rules is agreed upon by every user when they sign up.

 

No. I don't belong to or care for either party.

 

We have them already.
Just believe trump's appointed judges.

 

I disagree that you could be banned forever from speaking with 80% of people in the English speaking world, including personal friends, internet friends, business associates and relatives, because an algorithm triggered on anonymous complaints for which a 23 year old computer tech from India is allowed 17 seconds to decide. The government built the Internet. Paid for it. Spends astronomical sums of tax money to protect it - and has provided unique legal protections on newspapers, television stations, magazines or radio stations - or even the ordinary person talking on the street. This is in addition to being a monopoly so greatly dominating at regardless of motive or how good the massive monopoly is, such monopolies are illegal.

Therefore, I don't think they can promote or censor anything on whims, political motives, corporate motives or in any other way other than preventing clear trolling, posting such as prohibited porn, violating copyright, prohibited advertising, clear threats of violence, clear stalking, criminal conspiracies or upon a finding of a court in such as a domestic abuse concern the court finds is real.

ALL news - or at least 99% of it is nothing but corporate advertising/propaganda for whatever is in the best interests of the corporation and censoring what is against the corporation's interest. To the extent massive internet monopolies have such discretion, then they can not prevent us from at least trying to talk to each other. OR they can repay - with interest - every dollar any level of government has spent on the Internet and Internet security - and the government will instead establish a distinctly different Internet incompatible with such monopolies internet and are prohibited from being on the other independent not-for-corporate-benefit Internet.

Every penny of costs including security of the corporate internet would be their internet for corporate purposes, and like any company they would be strictly liable for an breach in security harming or exposing people to hacking, theft or stealing identities if they had not put in past the absolute best possible with the most current technology safeguards.

 

If one gets banned from Twitter. There's others to go to.
Parler?

The news stations are 24/7 reality tv. They make money by selling ads. So they glamourize story's. And cater to their audience.

 

If this were Twitter or Facebook - and you were banned - would I have any idea where you went? If you had paid for advertising on Facebook and that is how all your customers communicated with each other and you - you paid for years - can Facebook just cancel you - with you having not way to communicate with your customers or they with you?

For businesses, for about 80% of potential customers there are only Google or Amazon. Jeff Bezos owns lots of Google stock and they have a mega billion dollar business deal going on - preferential extremely low advertising rates no one else gets. About 75% of the remaining 15% are Twitter and You Tube (lots of Google intermingles thru Big Tech.

Sure there are places like Parlor. 1% of people are there on a personal level and maybe 1/2 of 1% potential customer base on a business level.

What you are saying is no different than my posting "if you don't like America move somewhere else. They are over 190 other countries to pick from. And you are banished forever starting this instance - can't even phone anyone saying where your going to. You choice. You leave forever now."

That's fair, isn't it?

 

Simple, if you don't want to get banned by Twitter or Facebook then stick to the terms and conditions you agree to when you sign up. If you get banned you have no one to blame but yourself.

 

What should she do if things are this bad:

 

Which is why I need more information. How many cops did the shooter know he had with him? What was the building layout; were they cornerrd? What govt officials were they protecting, if any, and what were their orders? What was the cops past history with aggression? Need a lot more to judge.

 

I never said it was definitely someone's fault. There may have been no good decision to make. But I do want to know because it's important they get it right.

I agree with what someone earlier said about pros being present. In the initial breakthroughs, you can see that a few guys in particular seem to understand that the cops are spread to thin to apprehend them. So as long as they bob and weave they can get the cops' complete attention. Watch those guys just as the crowd breaks a police line; A few were some pretty good scrappers with a plan to me.

But they couldn't have pulled it off with enough cops to hold the line while simultaneously being able to send cops to neutralize the main scrappers.

 

You only need to know a cop shot an unarmed person......where have you been for the past few years?

 

I hope sarcasm but yeah, it's getting old trying to prevent instant judging of people who may have shot someone in legit fear for their life

 

On a side note, there was a significant amount of historical and expensive art in the Capitol. Did we lose any to this mob?

 

LOL! The only things to consider are "cop" and "unarmed".

 

Yeah I hate the loser, everyone should at this point however, there are those, you included, yes you, that have and are continuing to defend him and his out right lies. You, I will admit do it very very subtly but you do defend him.
I find that curious, I want to understand how a person does it, how after all that he has said and done, how does a person that on one hand claims to be a 'patriot' ad Loves America, how do you defend a person like trump?
You seem to be rather rational for a radical right winger, you have an over inflated sense of your legal knowledge but hey thats alright, so that is why I keep asking you. I think, maybe I just might get a better answer out of you than the other far more tin foil nutters on this thing.
You did defend the 'we waz robbed' crap for the last 2 months, do not deny it, you did. I still don't understand how a rational thinking American can do that.
If you are uncomfortable being asked these questions, well, I don't care, that is why you are here, isn't it?
So, you have so far agree he screwed up on the 6th, bravo, now can you at least admit the 6th was just end result of his BS since the election at the very least? Or do you give him a pass on that?
THAT is the issue, nothing more to discuss really.

 

Why should ?

At least I didn't defend , AS YOU ARE DOING, traitors to the United States, seditionists, rioters, murderers, terrorists who have stolen national documents.....


Sorry, your pathetic attempt to say "well, other people were bad so it's OK to try to overthrow the government"....is so laughable...

 

The DP has a long history of election rigging, and this election was obviously rigged.
No one believes it was a fair and free election, especially those who pretend that it was.

PHILLY VOICE, South Philly judge of elections pleads guilty to stuffing ballot boxes, accepting bribes, Prosecutors say Domenick DeMuro, 73, inflated results for Democratic primary candidates, By Michael Tanenbaum Headshot BY MICHAEL TANENBAUM , PhillyVoice Staff, MAY 21, 2020.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-f...lty-domenick-demuro-democrat-voting-machines/

 

Judges who refused to hold a single due process hearing into the integrity of the election.
Have I ever expressed anything other than harsh criticism for the Republican establishment?

Trump is a traditional liberal moderate who focused on a few policy priorities with considerable success, but he did not have a clue about how Washington works.

“They gather, all the brands, at the self-referential festivals, like the April White House Correspondents Association dinner, whose buffet of “pre-parties” and “after-parties” now number more than two dozen– because a single banquet, it is clear, cannot properly celebrate the full achievements of the People Who Run Your Country. … The insider swarm has been known by various names: “Permanent Washington”. “The Political Class”. “The Chattering Class”. “The Usual Suspects”. “The Beltway Establishment”. “The Echo Chamber”. “The Echo System”. “The Gang of 500”. “The Gang of 600”. “The Movable Mess”. “The Club”. THIS TOWN, Mark Leibovich, Penguin Books, 2013 p. 8.

Trump obviously thought that he had gained some acceptance from "The Political Class".
He was a very slow learner.