Which has nothing to do with : kazenatsu said: ↑ Then why do pro-choicers defend so staunchly later term abortions that are not for medical reasons or fetal abnormality?"""""" They don't....your imagination and miscomprehension is going wild again....
But it does have to do with this: Maybe I'm being unfair to your side, but it seems like, between the two of you, you're trying to use semantics to wiggle your way out of an uncomfortable debate point. (Abortions between the gestational ages of 12-19 weeks, done for the purpose of fetal abnormality)
Are there any late term abortions that are NOT for foetal abnormality or medical emergencies? And if you are looking at a definition late term does not apply to pre viability
I just fear it could be a slippery slope and be used to apply to less serious cases of abnormality or medical conditions. Not all babies with medical conditions are so obviously deformed as the picture shown in the OP.
WE are 'wriggling our way out"? How? By addressing posts which YOU can't seem to do ???? Oh gosh , here's a question you "missed" in that post : """ Interestingly I note you have not addressed the original premise. In the interests of "life above all" should even babies like baby K be kept alive indefinitely?""" Why did you wriggle out of that point?
That depends on your definition of "late term". If we went by the definition 12-19 weeks, then I would say MOST of them are not for fetal abnormality or health of the mother. Even if we were talking about 24 weeks, I believe there are still a few (even if it's a small number) that are not done for abnormalities or health reasons. (You might ask why in the world would a woman wait that long, but one of the main reasons are there's a lot of huge obese women who don't even realize they're pregnant until much later into the pregnancy)
Then why did you try to accuse me of bringing up late term abortions as a "one trick pony" when I was not referring to them?
you are off topic , as usual....And, One woman doesn't represent every woman which I have to explain a lot to Anti-Choicers… Want to get back to the topic or WRIGGLE some more ?
How many women out a thousand does it take to abuse their decision-making to justify a few regulations? If it's only 1 woman out of 1000 aborting at 24 weeks for no particular good reason, is that okay?
Which has nothing to do with obesity. There are multiple reasons why wow now may not realise they are pregnant until later. One of them is a continuing period and yes that does happen
How many thousands have to be put at risk because of a few? And what do YOU consider "no good reason" But once again we are back on this pony Despite the fact it is illegal to have abortions that late in most place
Obesity is one of the main reasons. Will regulations that make them have to show a health reason or proof of abnormality put them at risk?
You should know, since you 've been told several times (although that doesn't seem to work with you), Canada has NO abortion laws and they have a slightly lower abortion rate than the US. Contrary to how you think women do not "enjoy" pregnancy as long as possible just to have an abortion. I don't believe there should be any regulations....if a woman 8 months pregnant with a healthy fetus and no health problems herself shows up at the hospital and wants an abortion she isn't given one, she's first given a psyche evaluation. Not all women are mentally disturbed like Anti-Choicers think they are..
I realize you're in the UK. It's a little bit different in the US. Unlike almost every other serious medical procedure, a woman is likely to get her abortion in a clinic rather than a hospital. And yes, there are several clinics that will do it at 24 to 26 weeks, no questions asked (although they're likely to give her at least a dirty look).
Yes it does Happens here in qld because abortion IS against the law here although that is about to be overturned in parliament https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...d/news-story/c9e684347e5c3bc9f8ad739e6ef3f735
FoxHastings said: ↑ ....if a woman 8 months pregnant with a healthy fetus and no health problems herself shows up at the hospital and wants an abortion she isn't given one, she's first given a psyche evaluation You should know, since you 've been told several times (although that doesn't seem to work with you), Canada has NO abortion laws and they have a slightly lower abortion rate than the US. Contrary to how you think women do not "enjoy" pregnancy as long as possible just to have an abortion. I don't believe there should be any regulations....if a woman 8 months pregnant with a healthy fetus and no health problems herself shows up at the hospital and wants an abortion she isn't given one, she's first given a psyche evaluation. Not all women are mentally disturbed like Anti-Choicers think they are.. Which, like a lot of things you "realize' , just isn't true. And has absolutely nothing to do with what I post. Did you know that people from all over the world can find out things about other countries !!! There has been all forms of communication between countries for thousands of years...really..there has.... No it isn't . ....if a woman 8 months pregnant with a healthy fetus and no health problems herself shows up at the hospital and wants an abortion she isn't given one, she's first given a psyche evaluation Of which you naturally have NO proof. And clinics are NO different than hospitals...and so what if she's a week over.... WTF? Speaking of needing a psyche evaluation..... Why do you always wriggle around points by cherry picking posts?
I think its a personal decision for the parents to make. My niece gave birth to a baby with this exact condition. If I remember right , her doctors were suggesting she abort because it might not survive the birth. He was born, survived about 2 weeks and the whole family was able to hold him. I only saw pics of him wearing a little hat so he looked perfectly normal. I have no idea if she would have done what this mom did (if given the option)
Agree. But it's definitely possible for a woman to have second thoughts about becoming a parent with responsibilities, especially if it's a single parent. There could also be other reasons for a woman having cold feet about becoming a parent. Or is that not possible in your world?
Yes, and that is why I don't entirely disapprove of the compromise already made, that a fetus receives protection after 23 weeks. However, normal women do NOT do that....if ANY woman wanted that the doctors she consults would always give a psyche evaluation. If the woman insists the doctors only have to say no. Or since doctors LOVE C-sections so much they could oblige her by taking a viable fetus out. if they think she may damage it and herself. Now , I'd be interested in seeing stats of how many women do this....have you any that don't come from Anti-Choice websites like LifeNews ? And, I don't care if it's a million, that should have NO bearing on women's rights to their own bodies.
