'Cast Lead 2'? Hostilities escalate over Gaza...

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  1. Gilos

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    Rough night, 5 attacks on my city, my daughter got really anxious because our house is not protected at all, we had to sleep at my wife's parents........I got kicked all night hardly sleped at all :no:

    Probebly a few weeks like that ahead,

    Did you see the Hamas commando coming from the sea ? I thought it was illustration or something out of a movie ! great hits ! 4 dead and I heard 8 more blew up in a terror tunnel on way to Kerem Shalom village, they must be getting desperate to use all their arsenal right now.

    I hope the army will act smart and start a slow and careful invasion - as much as possible...
     
  2. Gilos

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    How does the high morals those pilots have change anything of what Drew said ?

    The responsibilty lies at those that seek a military win yet cant stand the results of it - if they cant protect their ppl like Israel does - they need to stop acting like they can and stop the military approach! or pay the price and stop whinning...
     
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    All the Israeli's will achieve with this action is a recruitment drive for even more radical Islamists .
     
  4. Gilos

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    They cant get more radical than Hamas toward Israel, they might get more radical toward other countries in the area but we reached a dead end with Hamas already.
     
  5. Uri

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    My place wasn't hit, but its not easy. Especially for the kids.
    They trained alot for this, thats for sure. The video of the commando is amazing.
    I hope that those in charge realize that we can go on, if they will actually try this time to end this stupid status quo.
    We cant let hammas handle our life.
     
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    Right on brother,

    In any case Brazil got hit harder than us last night....
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    In the most densely populated region on the planet where else are they going to be? That's the point.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Except, of course, when Israel breaks a cease fire to instigate an attack as the loathsome Mark Regev has admitted. Naturally you avoided mentioning the numerous occasions on which the IOF used Palestinian children and youths as human shields.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Israel has been 'handling' and controlling the Palestinian's lives for over half a century. Do you ever stop to think how they feel about that?
     
  10. Uri

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    Yes i do.
    Did you ever stop to think that the only difference between the horrible life they have in gaza and the semi normal life they have in the wb is hamas?
    Removing hamas from gaza is their interest, as well as ours.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Really? And then any resistance to Israeli occupation would be removed and Israel's lust for 'lebensraum' could continue unopposed. Hamas, unpleasant though they may be, are the Palestinian's only means of a strong opposition to Israel.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And rocket launchers know it too... Don't they?
     
  13. Uri

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    Israel is not interested in gaza.
    Hamas is not a strong opposition, its a strong terror organization which is destroying gaza and making life miserable for its inhabitants.
    Abu mazen is a strong opposition, not hamas.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    As did the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, an even more densely populated enclave, and yet they also fought their occupiers in the knowledge that reprisal would take no account of who was fighting and who was not.
     
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    Again? Gaza = warsaw ghetto?
    Thats funny.
     
  16. Dutch

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    Thank you for admitting, Palestinians intentionally put their children in the line of fire. Then again, muslim families traditionally quite large...
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    I admitted no such thing. As usual you have no argument other than a feeble attempt at putting words in my mouth.
     
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    Oh, I see. But if, as you saying, Palestinians have no choice but to shoot rockets from densely populated areas, don't they put their own children in danger, knowing Israelis will retaliate?

    They at least could build deep bomb shelter next to each launch site... They're good at building looooooong and deeeeeeep underground structures, aren't they?
     
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    Didn't forget, it's not IDF policy and soldiers who do this act on their own, and face disciplinary action.
     
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    I don't care whether it's "policy" or not. The fact is that it is a war crime and the paltry 'sentences' (demotion) handed out to the criminals involved are pathetically inadequate and smack of tacit approval but, having been put in the spotlight, Israel decided that public opinion demanded they make a show of punishing the criminals.
     
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    Fact is, Hamas does this as a matter of policy and brags about it so, if one wonders about whether they deliberately put their children in the line of fire wonder no more.
     
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    Hamas is running out of money.
    Egypt had closed the border and they cannot perform any more smuggling.
    Israel has closed the border with Egypt so all the human trafficking they were running from Sinai also dried up.
    They need to develop mass damage and casualties in Gaza so they can get EU to send them a few billion more.
    So they fire their rockets on Israel, knowing they will do very little damage, but a lot of frighten children, waiting for Israel to respond.

    I've seen this pattern time and time again, it is their way to get back to the news and raise some money.
    They have really bad competition now where every small town in Syria or Iraq has can show more damage and casualties than the entire Gaza strip.
     
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    Iron Dome looks airtight, but sooner or later one will get through. Therefore it is incumbent on the IDF to do another curb-stomp of Hamas.
     
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    The idea that there is a right side and a wrong side, moral vs amoral, good vs evil to this blood feud only serves to perpetuate more killing.

    This is a blood feud and both sides are guilty of atrocities. Your claim is essentially "might is right". The problem in this case is that Israeli might came from the US. In fact it was this unilateral support for one side while ignoring the oppression of the other side that was cited as part of the rational for 911.

    It is true that the US has been guilty of pushing it's weight around the globe for the past 5 or more decades on the basis of "might is right". If this is the stance we are taking then we have no business telling Russia to back off Ukraine or future actions by China against it's strategic interests.

    In setting this precedent and we are already reaping what we have sown. Rather than take advantage of a window of opportunity to get the world together on certain issues we have done exactly the thing that we tell others not to do - act on the sole basis that might is right and self serving strategic interest.

    This is not in keeping with the principles of international law. If we do not abide by these principles then there is no reason for others to abide by these principles so long as they have might.
     
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    Where is the proof?
     

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