CBS: Guns are responsible for nearly ¾ of the killings of transgender people since 2017, data shows

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  1. rahl

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    prove humans have eternal souls. Prove humans are fundamentally different from animals. Science says they are not.
     
  2. Xenamnes

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    How many by agents of government who would legally have firearms?

    Slightly over eight percent of the total number of suicides committed annually. Thus confirming once again, in the vast majority of cases, suicide attempts by means other than firearms are just as lethal, and just as capable of resulting in the individual successfully ending their own existence. Thus the initial claim on the part of yourself is factually incorrect, just as it was the last time the claim was made. Just as it will be the next time the claim is made.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

    The united states is ranked thirty four out of one hundred and eighty three countries on the basis of suicide. Meaning there are thirty three countries with higher levels of suicide than the united states, all of which possess significant firearm-related restrictions of a much greater scope than anything the united states possesses.
     
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    And yet nothing, absolutely nothing, can be presented on the part of yourself to suggest any religious texts holds and mandates that society is required to take care of the weak and feeble for the duration of their natural lives, or that individuals who wish to end their own existence must be protected from themselves.

    If such mandates do exist in the various religious texts being cited on the part of yourself, then find them and present them for review and consideration.

    One who averages only twenty hours of work per week has no excuse for not investing the time to find and present the evidence that supposedly proves their position is being valid.
     
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    I'm sure your child is no different from a paramecium.
     
  5. Xenamnes

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    In the world of today, one is about as useful as the other.
     
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    I work 20-24 hours per week, mostly on household chores. I do find my workload exhausting. Fortunately I do not have responsibilities most non-disabled people my age have.
     
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    Spiritual beliefs can neither be proven nor dis-proven within this World.
     
  8. Xenamnes

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    Then there is no excuse for not investing the time to search the various cited religious texts to identify the passages that supposedly support the concept of a welfare state, or otherwise mandate that society must take care of the weak and feeble for the duration of their natural lives.
     
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    so then making assertions that a god or souls exist, seems rather silly.
     
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    The Truth G-d and the Old Testament can not be proven or dis-proven in this World.

    We only know that Atheists -- Nazis and to a much less extent Communists acted horribly.
     
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    So it’s rather silly for you to assert as a fact that all humans have a soul.

    Almost as bad as Christians acted.
     
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    The OP article doesn't say how many were suicides.
     
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    The article doesn't say anything about suicide.

    Black transgender women have it worse than other transgender people.

    "The Human Rights Campaign says black transgender women are at particular risk for violence because of a 'toxic intersection of racism, sexism, transphobia and easy access to guns.' Everytown's data shows that 82 percent of transgender gun homicide victims since January 2017 were black transgender women."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transg...slain-since-2017-killed-with-guns-data-shows/
     
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    It should because approx. 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicides.
     
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    The problem is that the stats don't indicate if the murders are motivated by the fact that they are transgender. If a transgender person was in a group of people who were ambushed, then presumably they would be listed in these stats.
     
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    At risk. How many of the deaths can actually be shown as being a direct result of such?
     
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    If less guns means less suicides Japan should be just about suicide free.
     
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    Also trains are very often used for suicides, maybe even more so than rope in some countries.
     
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    No they mustn't be.
     
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    In Japan, the problem is that suicide is not viewed as a sin.
     
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    All minors in USA must be supervised -- that includes being protected from self-harm.
     
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    Incorrect, in the U.S., while it varies from state to state minors as young as 6 to 12, may be left unsupervised and on their own in a safe location, such as at home, in their yard, a friends relatives home or yard, etc.

    Maybe you should do some fact checking going forward and get a clue of what you are talking about before posting such nonsense.
     
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    I see, so then the problem with suicide is how its viewed, not whether or not people have access to guns.
     
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    I was often not supervised all the time well before I turned 18 and so it was with most of my peers.
     
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    Exactly.

    All that CCitizen posts is nonsense.
     
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