CBS News’ ‘60 Minutes’ Blasted Over ‘War Criminal Puff Piece’ On Eddie Gallagher

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  1. Ddyad

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    Sanctioning warmongers is always a good thing.
     
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    Show me where I "completely dismissed the role of law in how you view the world around you". As far as dismissing me, that is your privilege. That does not mean I will remain silent.
     
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    Except for the part where his only "conviction" was taking a picture with a dead body.

    You know, it's like charging people for "lying" when there's nothing else to charge them with.
     
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    Oh goody! An example of the fallacy known as "Ignoratio Elenchi", or "Irrelevant Conclusion. You know.,.. when you start talking about "conviction" but then the metaphor that is supposed to contain your conclusion is about "charges"...

    In any case, not sure what the fact that he was convicted "only" for taking a picture with a dead body has to do with anything I've said.
     
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    You're not sure what him only being convicted on one count of taking a picture has to do with anything you've said?

    Not surprised.
     
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    woman and children?
     
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    Women and children are often pressed into combat by our degenerate enemies.

    Children armed with weapons is a reflection on them, not us.
     
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    Expand your view a bit, study the history of applied sanctions, using Iraq and Venezuela as two examples, and you will find that it's the people including children that are the victims.
     
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    You completely ignored the US Code Title 18.
     
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    I never ignored anything. He was not convicted of murder. He was convicted of having his picture taken with a dead terrorist.
     
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    Then what is being proposed as an alternative?
     
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    I don't think it matters what anyone can say to those people. In the era of Trump the lynch mob, which runs purely on emotions, knee-jerk assumptions and speculative opinions, thinks they are the new justice system.
     
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    Such has been going on for far longer than Donald Trump has been president of the united states. He is but a symptom, rather than a cause.
     
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    Yes, warmongers prefer war to sanctions.

    IOW: 'VOTE DP TO END SANCTIONS AND GO TO WAR!'

    Are you a DP political strategist? If so you should ask for a raise. ;-)
     
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    Like many other things, Trump's election has shined a light on a lot of things the dems were able to keep a lid on, which they were able to keep hidden for decades.

    Trump caused many people to rip their own masks off and show the world who and what they are. a lot of RINOs were able to pretend they were Constitutionalists, and now they have shown how they were just Democrats wearing a mask, like George Will, John Kasich, Bill Kristol, Meg Whitman etc... We also have a lot of Demcorats who are now finally waving the socialist flag, where they used to pretend they were old school Democrats.
     
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    Peaceful co-existence? Is that an option?

    Or as Jefferson put it, honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none. Does that work?
     
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    Well some war mongers like sanctions first, then military aggression.

    As I mentioned above, I prefer that "honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.

    Give peace a chance. Peace must be actively sought.
     
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    Regardless of the legal technicalities, if you read about this case, it's clear this man should never have been in the service.
    Posing with a photo of a dead enemy is neither here not there ... things are different on the battlefield. And sometimes you do
    things in hot blood that you would not do, if you could stop and consider. That's not the case here.

    War is nasty, especially one against brutal savages like we're fighting. But we are supposed to be -- and we ARE, in general -- the forces of civilization, fighting the forces of anti-civilization.

    And note -- this is not the same as the 'ticking time-bomb question', that favorite of every freshman class in ethics, in which violating the rules of civilization might give you a big payoff in terms of information. This man committed his crimes for pleasure. He's a psychopath.

    I don't believe we now have any chance to transform these countries, to 'drain the swamp'. But if we did, doing things like this -- and things like Abu Ghraib, where lower-level sadists had their fun -- are directly counter to the mission. Worse than crimes, these things are blunders.

    Conservatives should be principled people. Leave it to the Left to defend this sort of sickness, as they did the Black Panthers, who interrogated suspected police informers by pouring boiling water on them.
     
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    Such does not work, and such is not an option.
     
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    Abu Ghraib happened because of the Bush leadership.

    It's really tough, impossible, to make an argument that we are "the forces of civilization", a "force for good", when we dropped 2 atomic bombs on civilians.

    It's tough to make the argument that we are a force for good or civilization when we routinely commit military aggression all over the globe by way of lies and deception.
     
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    And I should take your word for that, why?
     
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    Such only works in a world where nations engage in isolationist practices, closing themselves off from the rest of the world and the global community. Those who put themselves out there in the open, to trade and do business with others, inevitably open themselves and their practices to the scrutiny of others. The entire "live and let live" mentality does not work because human nature does not tolerate differing ideals.
     
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    Don't let the best be the enemy of the good.
    There was a distinction between British and French capitalism, on the one hand, and German capitalism,mon the other, during WWII.
    There was a distinction between American imperialism, on the one hand, and Japanese imperialism, on the other, during WWII.
    Anyone who is a defender of civilization, and who has even a modicum of judgement, had a side in that war.
    That does NOT mean there were not terrible atrocities committed by the 'Good Guys'. There were. But you have to draw a balance sheet.

    We're naked, tailless apes. The progress towards civilization we've made so far is astonishing, running as it does against so many biological imperatives.
    We have to keep pushing on.

    The US is not a revolutionary power. It's not in the DNA of our ruling class to undertake deep social transformations. They don't know how. They have no feeling for other peoples' national pride, for one thing. And they are not in instinctive sympathy for the unwashed masses for another.

    Probably no one can drain the swamp in the Middle East. But the US certainly showed it could not.

    Thus, we must come home. Let's concentrate on doing that.
     
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    No, warmongers always want more endless wars, so warmongers always slander the peacemakers.


    "Through a series of tweets, Gabbard went right at Clinton, calling her the "embodiment of corruption" among the Democratic Party establishment.
    "From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a concerted campaign to destroy my reputation," Gabbard said.
    "We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you," she added."
    THE HILL, Gabbard hits back at 'queen of warmongers' Clinton, BY MARTY JOHNSON - 10/18/19.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/466524-gabbard-hits-back-at-queen-of-warmongers-clinton
     
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    "Death To America!" = Warmonger = Enemy
     

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