Chancellor Merkel compares USA under Trump with late USSR

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  1. Canell

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    One is entitled to his dreams. ;)
    Anyway, the showdown begin this fall. We will see.
     
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    You need soldiers to stop from being overrun and conquered unless you're planning to toss Plutonium on your own cities and people when an enemy crashes in.

    You're ripe for the picking, and Trump was correct to call you out.

    Choosing not to spend on defense knowing the US will.
     
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    You do know what a recombinant virus is, right? A virus programmed to attack only specific haplo groups.

    What can soldiers do while vomiting blood? And you know whats best? It does not affect those who dont have that genetic marker

    Soldiers are nothing but raw meat.
     
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    Soldiers and equipment win wars. never going to be any different.

    You don't have any. You're weak and ripe for the picking.
     
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    How can Germany possibly defend itself without having it's own natural energy resources? Even Hitler knew without the ME's oil Germany was kaput. Hitler is turning over in his grave knowing Germany relies on Russia for it's energy.
     
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    Break up of USA? Isn't that what Hitler wanted as well? As for California, that state would be a good fit for Europe. California would be happy to send their immigrants your way. Got more room?
     
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    I remember the French threatening this after 9/11

    Maybe Sarkosy
     
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    We dont need any. We are sorounded by NATO. Even if we go down to Zero.

    You know whats teh funny thing? With our population, enormous rescources ad technology we could build one of most powerful militaries in such a short period of time. As your own trump said, Germany could do it by tomorrow.

    But why should we? :)
     
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    Who should we rely for for our energy? You? ha ha ha ha ha
     
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    Now you see the problem.

    What if NATO was filled with Nations like yourself that don't supply the troops and equipment needed to make this defensive alliance? Guess what...it is! This shield you think you have, will probably be nowhere near enough when it actually appears.

    Promises of hitting 2% in 2024 wont help you now if it was needed.

    You've just exampled the very problem Trump was complaining about. You expect us to shield you, while you slap tariffs on our stuff, buy energy from Russia, and don't even bring your agreed upon contribution to this defensive alliance.

    NATO can't save you if Nations aren't giving the manpower and material it needs to have.
     
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    Defense from what - the bogeyman ?
     
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    Short period of time? Yeah, you could draft up an army of privates I’m sure, but what about NCO’s? It takes years to attain enough experience to run a platoon.
     
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    Your stuff is crap. American products are as popular here as diarrhea. Your cars have no market share. Even WalMArt went bancrupt here after just 4 years. You dont produce what Germans want. So stop this argument.

    You do realize that if we go to two% of our GDP, we would have 2nd strongest military in the world?

    Also you do realize that planning ect takes time? We build our arms ourself. There are not endless slots in the yards for ships for example.
     
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    Our special forces like KSK are already considered one of the best in the world.
     
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    Merkel is a communist who wants a return of the USSR.

    She will sell you out again the second she has the chance.
     
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    No. You should install a Russian nipple and suckle.
     
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    This is a prescient point. Shale oil as it sits now is a giant ponzi scheme. The companies involved have been losing money and have huge debt.

    The problem is that the decline rate of these wells is rapid. 30% the first year and another 30% the second - and that is in best areas - prime locations as opposed to the no so prime ones.

    This means that if you drill 10 wells ... you have to drill 10 more over 3 years just to maintain production - never mind increase it. Even though the 10 wells drilled originally are producing bugger all - they still have to be maintained so in year 3 you are having to take care of 20 wells but getting the production of 10. This situation gets worst with time.

    To "increase production" you obviously have to drill more than 10 over the next 3 years. The increase in production has caused the costs of drilling to skyrocket - despite better drilling technology. The process takes huge amounts of frac sand and water along with Trucks to hual all this stuff. Increased oil prices have increased profitability but the costs of fuel for trucks has also increased.

    Every year the costs increase - more wells to take care of- increase costs of drilling and so on. At the same time they are drilling through the prime areas and having to get into the more moderate formations.

    Investment in increased production has already started to wane . BHP invested 20 billion in oil sand and they have pulled out altogether - the CEO calling it a mistake to have gone that direction.
     
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    NATO was about providing a deterrence to the Soviet Union. Now it's about a deterrence to Russia. And some Americans are opposed to NATO?
     
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    She will always be German Hillary from now on lol
     
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    By themselves.
    Lol.
     
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    Maybe so, and that would be great for NATO wouldn't it? Then when people make statements like "Im surrounded by NATO" implying a solid defense...maybe it would have merit.

    NATO cannot save you from anything if we don't have the troops and equipment it needs to be that defending force.


    As to American stuff being crap in comparison to yours, you're simply over valuing yourself. I like some of your booze though, I'll grant you that.
     
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    Not exactly. Germany's economy depends on exports mostly late cycle Goods.

    They stand to lose more in the trade war.
     
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    Why are you asking me this?
     
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    Well lets see, you will be totally happy then if we do that, right? You will also give us NATO high command? Or is it just that we have to build up our military but dont get more say then?
     
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    Originally, the Warsaw Pact nations.
     

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