Chicago shootings: 39 shot, 4 fatally in weekend violence, police say

This thread could have been about race or liberal leaders, board members talked about race and Clarence Thomas chimes in on both.


How liberal policies have killed black communities: Clarence Thomas

Michael Pack: You have talked a little today about how life in the black community has not been improved by many well-intentioned social programs. Do you think, in some sense, it is worse than when you grew up?

Clarence Thomas: It’s a disaster. When I grew up, you had family, you didn’t have drugs, you didn’t have gang-banging. You could walk down the street.

 

I think that if it wasn't easy, they would make choices that burden everybody else.

I get why social safety nets exist, and I even support them to an extent. But what we have created is a culture of dependence, poor choices, and largely created most of the problems that exist... because of guilt and emotion.

 

You can't fix anything if you can't identify the root of the problem. It's politically inconvenient but necessary.

Most of these shootings, gang most often, are perpetuated by children who have one parent instead of two. If they even have that.

 

The lefts prescriptions?

What have they attempted?

These issues primarily exist in democrat dominated urban centers, and the left has done nothing for fear of upsetting their desired voting block.

 

You fail to see the forest for the trees.

You desire to "fix" the problem by creating more of it. Incentivize the behavior until it is normal. Next thing you know, nobody has a father, and the issue complicates.

Government simply can't fix some things. Why you desire to put the responsibility on others is perplexing.

So.... we just need to mandate more programs and throw more money at it.

The lefts solution for everything.

 

fathers absolutely have a massive influence on children in a positive manner when present in thier lives. And the problem absolutely is when they aren’t present in their lives. It has so little to do with providing income and everything to do with discipline, and guidance.

While there is no single issue cause, your analysis could not be further from the truth. This one single issue would solve most of the problem by a considerable margin.

 

Could you give me a verbatim quote where I said most blacks are criminals? I would not want to call you a liar but I never said any such thing and that is not my narrative.

Blacks are 6X more likely to commit violent crime than the rest of us. That is not a narrative that is a statistical fact. Blacks are 13% of the population and commit more than half the murders.

 

What about situations like this one in Kansas city? A black woman uses a gun to carjack somebody and then aims it at police while running away. She gets shot and she lived. She put the lives of civilians and cops in jeopardy and these idiots take her side.





The idiot squad, BLM black democrats all jumped on this as attempted murder. People in the neighborhood believed the lies instantly that she was unarmed and then a photo of her showed clearly that she had a gun in her right hand while running from police.

Police do not have to wait until the criminal aims at them and starts shooting to engage. If you are fleeing the cops and have a gun in your right hand they can shoot.

These lies and false narratives are celebrated by idiots. Like in South Chicago when a grown ass man was wounded in a shootout with police and a rumor went around that police murdered a 15 year old. So thousands of blacks show up in North Chicago looting and breaking things. Over a lie!

I'm sorry but I do not respect these people.

 

These idiots want to lecture us about misinformation?




In the south Chicago neighborhood of Englewood a 25 year old man was engaged in a shootout with police. Fortunately for him he was only wounded and survived.

A rumor started that police had just killed an unarmed 15 year old.

So in an amazingly organized response to the non shooting of a 15 year old who did not exist thousands of blacks appeared in Chicago's magnificent mile and trashed the place for 5 hours. Rioting and looting and shouting "F**k the police". Gun shots were directed at police and 13 officers were injured. Fortunately none killed in rioting over an incident that never occurred.

No I don't respect these people who promote hate want to ruin our country.

 

August 2020...
Ancient History...
That was Then..
As of NOW there is no more Random Looting in the Loop...
As of Summer 2022, The Cops have it under control...

 

In Chicago, per capita, thats a .0084% rate

The Uvalde school shooting gave them a .1178% rate for just that one incident.

And BTW, Chicago is ranked 15th overall in 2021......

YES, its a problem, but what is the actual cause of the violence ? Is it poverty, location, conditions, but to blame it on politics is a little disingenuous

 

Yes, it's poverty, location, conditions, and politics. Politics determines how you approach the first three. Do you promise to give people in poverty money or do you promise them jobs? Do you go after gangs or do you work on keeping them in your district? To believe that politics do not have any roll to play is a little disingenuous

 

If Chicago had a republican mayor, things would be exactly as they are today.

The problems with Big Cities is not the politics, its the conditions. Cities like Chicago have populations so large that costs are thru the roof and cause larger subsets of poverty level neighborhoods. Add on to that population density, especially in the very large cities), people on top of one another, and the tensions that creates (human nature).

Serious question, how does a mayor solve/create those problems ?

 

By failing to back their city's cops.

"The city has seen massive spikes in violent crime, with critics blaming Lightfoot for dropping the ball by letting police ranks dwindle and failing to back first responders.

Last year Lightfoot even pushed a plan to cut police budget funding by $80 million in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests."

Chicago 911 dispatcher slams mayor over surge in crime (nypost.com)

 

As more folks in Pennsylvania obtained concealed carry, justified homicides increased as vile thugs attacked those well prepared to effectively defend themselves.

Now SCOTUS has affirmed the rights of ALL to the same effective self-defense that some on the Left have reserved to the connected elite and violent felons.

Supreme Court Issues Landmark Ruling Confirming Gun Rights.

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"New York’s restrictions required those who wish to carry a concealed weapon for self-defense to show “proper cause” rather than have a presumption of the right to carry. Similar laws exist in Massachusetts, Hawaii, New Jersey, Maryland, and California, where this ruling will have a huge ripple effect."

“The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not ‘a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees. The exercise of other constitutional rights does not require individuals to demonstrate to government officers some special need. The Second Amendment right to carry arms in public for self-defense is no different. New York’s proper-cause requirement violates the Fourteenth Amendment by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms in public.”

Making the 14th amendment great again!

One People,
One Law,
Applied Equally.

 

So Jan 6th 2021 is also ancient history?

In the summer of 2020 our country was slandered and defamed by a bunch of illiterate morons wanting to use racial hate for political gain. What happened to George Floyd was not even rare or unusual. See Tony Timpa.

 

Ah, but things are getting better. Remember, New Orleans just celebrated black power with a giant hair pick statue!



Happy belated Juneteenth, everyone!

 

FYI there are many shootings and a decent number of murders that occur on Chicago's expressways. The Dan Ryan, The Edens, The Kennedy and the Eisenhower.



Because these expressways are patrolled by Illinois state police these shootings are not part of city statistics. So when you see so many shot and killed in Chicago it is even worse than that.