Chicago sues Glock

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  1. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    "CITY OF CHICAGO FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST GLOCK GUN MANUFACTURER: 'PUTTING PROFIT OVER PUBLIC SAFETY'

    "CHICAGO (WLS) -- Chicago city officials are hoping legal firepower against a gun manufacturer will do what law enforcement can't: stop the easy and cheap conversion of Glock pistols into machine guns with the installation of a small part and the flip of a switch.

    "The lawsuit in Cook County court aims to force Glock into retooling it's guns to make such illegal conversion more difficult.

    "Crime scenes across the city and suburbs have been increasingly littered with dozens of spent ammo, often from a Glock pistol. With a simple addition of a button-like device, the firearm is transformed in to a fully-automatic machine gun....

    "The lawsuit against the Glock corporation, headquartered in Georgia, alleges that Glock executives knowingly make a product that can be easily converted into an illegal, full-auto weapon. It is the first suit of its kind under a new Illinois law to hold gun makers accountable.

    " 'Folks are putting profit over pain and putting profit over public safety,' Chicago Deputy Mayor of Community Safety Garien Gatewood said.

    "He explained how the city suit shows how Glock could change its gun production to defeat the use of machine gun switches."
    https://abc7chicago.com/amp/chicago...n-manufacturer-full-auto-conversion/14579860/

    Should a gun manufacturer be held accountable for making it easy for buyers to violate the NFA?
     
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    We're watching the left try to deplete Trump's resources and knock him out of the race with endless false accusations and frivolous lawsuits.

    Chicago has been watching and is using the same tactic to support the gun grabbers that would remove our second amendment rights.

    It is important to note the emotional, inflammatory language like:
    "Crime scenes across the city and suburbs have been increasingly littered with dozens of spent ammo"
    "'Folks are putting profit over pain and putting profit over public safety,"

    By the way, the "conversion" described is not as simple as portrayed. It's easier to transform a chimpanzee into a gorilla.
     
  3. FatBack

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    ' Making such conversions more difficult "......
    Is extremely highly, open to interpretation.. to say the very least.

    Any semi-auto gun is relatively easily convertible to full automatic by anyone who has any degree of mechanical aptitude.

    But anyhow I wish them the best of luck but they really should be sending Glock a check from the city for doing their dirty work for them because it kind of tends to be a self-limiting problem
     
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  4. Polydectes

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    So they're suing Glock because they're law enforcement is incompetent?

    The NFA shouldn't exist. If people are getting murdered in Chicago it's because their police are stupid are there justice system is stupid.

    I think if they lose this lawsuit they should be fined for trying to play my gun manufacturer for their own incompetence.
     
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    courts need to start hammering the turds who bring these sorts of lawsuits.
     
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    That was also one of my first thoughts when reading the article.... They're going to sue the gun manufacturer because they as city government suck at doing their job which includes maintaining law and order in their City.

    It's not their fault they can't handle the problem.... So in classic progressive fashion let's go and blame someone else and in this case let's even see if we can go and extract some money out of them.

    Democrat parasites obviously run that City

    The wrong people are suing the wrong people... The people of the city of Chicago should be suing the incompetent idiots that they pay to run their City
     
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  7. Polydectes

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    They're trying to blame Glock for Chicago being a shithole.
     
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    a trait of leftist thought is blaming others for one's own failures
     
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    Essentially avoiding responsibility.
     
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    YEP blaming others for their own failures.
     
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    And also avoiding having to evaluate themselves.
     
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    Chicago has also sued Hyundai and Kia for producing cars that lack anti-theft technology.

    “The impact of car theft on Chicago residents can be deeply destabilizing, particularly for low- to middle-income workers who have fewer options for getting to work and taking care of their families,” said Mayor Brandon Johnson. “The failure of Kia and Hyundai to install basic auto-theft prevention technology in these models is sheer negligence, and as a result, a citywide and nationwide crime spree around automobile theft has been unfolding right before our eyes.”
    https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/dep...ugust/SuitAgainstAutomakersKiaAndHyundai.html

    Manufacturers can be held liable if their products lead to harm which was forseeable. Was it forseeable that Glock's guns could be easily converted to machine guns thus leading to more deaths?
     
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    that's a bullshit argument. first of all-converting a glock to full auto is not going to result in more deaths. if you don't understand why, then you really are not up to speed in debating gun control issues. BTW before the GLOCK could be imported into the USA from Austria, it had to meet ATF standards that it was not easily convertible
     
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    I don't think you can be sure about that especially given that there has been a very significant increase in the number of shell casings and modified Glocks recovered at crime scenes. That's indicative of more shots being fired and thus potentially more victims.

    "CHANG: And why Chicago as the plaintiff here - like, why is a city suing the company?

    "KASTE: Well, police around the country have told me that these Glock switches are becoming more popular, especially with young men and teenagers. They say the shootings that they've been investigating are more often very indiscriminate. But this phenomenon appears to be especially intense in Chicago. The police there say that, in the last two years, they've recovered more than 1,100 of these modified Glocks from crime scenes. I talked to Garien Gatewood. He's the city's deputy mayor for community safety.

    "GARIEN GATEWOOD: When law enforcement is showing up to crime scenes where, a decade ago, you may have seen four or five bullet casings, now you're showing up to a crime scene, and you may see 40, 50, 60 shell casings. We are the No. 1 city in the country for mass shootings."
    https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239991730/chicago-is-suing-firearms-manufacturer-glock
     
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    Is Glock making the switches? NO
    Did Glock intend its pistols to be so modified NO

    can you explain to those of us who understand firearms-how these switches make Glocks more deadly

    1,100 GLOCKS recovered that had been modified-I call BULLSHIT on that and that turd's explanation on why they are suing GLOCK makes no mention of anything GLOCK has done wrong.
     
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    have you noticed that no one has noted that GLOCK has done anything wrong. GLOCK didn't create these switches. Glock doesn't market these switches and those who are doing the conversions are breaking federal law.
     
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    Under that law, individual switches themselves — even those not attached to a gun — are considered machine guns. The penalty for breaking that law is a prison term of as long as 10 years
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/1...nded-capacity-magazines-machine-guns-violence

    given how many Glocks are currently in circulation-including up to half the police departments in the USA, the gun banner wet dream of getting rid of them is going to fail.
     
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    For producing and selling a product whose sole purpose for existing is to kill and maim?

    Let's ask the most litigious person in America...

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    Nope.
     
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    Maybe they should stop being soft on crime and get these thugs off the street.
     
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    That dumber than during Glock...lol
     
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    There are lots of products that increase the rate of fire of various guns. "Bump Stocks" come to mind. They have nothing to do with the gun manufacturer but are designed as add-ons by other people.
     
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    so your learned argument is that there should be no weapons made for the police or military as well?
     
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    what? and lock up a major constituency?
     
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