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China is able to put 14 bullet trains into operation quickly, with own designs, why not US?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Guyzilla, Sep 22, 2017.

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  1. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

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    Rather be in a train crash .
     
    Bear513, Sep 22, 2017
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    Bear513 Banned

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    Your a mold maker? Didn't know that , started off mold maker then process tech, field service tech for Nissie ..now just a maintenance guy.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You forgot "inventor of bullet trains".
     
    Max Rockatansky, Sep 22, 2017
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  4. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reagans vision for America, made us all maintenance guys, for commie molds etc.
     
    Guyzilla, Sep 22, 2017
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    LOL
     
    Bear513, Sep 22, 2017
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    The NE corridor is profitable account of its population density. Other Amtrak routes are not profitable account of lower density. The lower the density the more the government subsidy.
     
    katzgar, Sep 22, 2017
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  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dead is dead, but I support your freedom to choose. If a person would rather ride Amtrak than an airliner, that's what they should do.
     
    Max Rockatansky, Sep 22, 2017
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    I think the answer here is relatively simple. Not the solution, but the answer. In a word- Government. In this country getting anything done is like an old saying I heard about mating elephants. Everything takes place at a high level (in our case, Congress) and there is a great deal of posturing, positioning and a lot of snorting and bellowing that may go on for a very long time. Then, if anything happens, it still takes two years to get results. Now that's for elephants. With government, all the factors are subject to significant multipliers, and the odds of nothing happening or the result being mutant offspring that fail to survive goes way up too.

    As my muse spirit Charles Kettering once said-
    "If you want to kill any idea in the world, get a committee working on it."
     
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  9. Guyzilla

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    FACT IS, we have a PROBLEM funding capital equipment. Each man, on his own, is not FAST enough productivity. We are competing against commies that scoff at your fear of, GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY.
     
    Guyzilla, Sep 22, 2017
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    government subsidies will be required
     
    katzgar, Sep 22, 2017
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, China says YEs, to government subsidy, as investment, towards hegemony.
     
    Guyzilla, Sep 22, 2017
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    Instead of raising every ones taxes and doing things like improve our rail system or provide medical care for everyone (like most of the world has/is doing) trump wants to reward his financial supporters by lowering their taxes.
     
    Capt Nice, Sep 22, 2017
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    It's easy to do things like that in a totalitarian dictatorship not so much a Democracy.
     
    garyd, Sep 22, 2017
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    China's debt will likely crush it soon
     
    katzgar, Sep 22, 2017
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    Making America crap again
     
    katzgar, Sep 22, 2017
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    So do trains
     
    garyd, Sep 22, 2017
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    You get to the crux of my OP. HOW in the hell do we compete with folks that are ABLE to fund things?
     
    Guyzilla, Sep 22, 2017
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    The crux should be why we need to invest in bullet trains at all. Kasich in Ohio returned $480 million, that Obama earmarked for high speed rail that served no purpose. Amtrac is a disaster as it is. Improving urban rail makes sense, high speed interstate doesn't.
     
    PrincipleInvestment, Sep 22, 2017
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    Describing Amtrak as a disaster is just more right-wing pretend world
     
    katzgar, Sep 22, 2017
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    So do Trains...?
     
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    It would be in the US.

    We have neither the population density or Geography to have bullet trains in a cost effective and productive manner.
     
    Capitalism, Sep 22, 2017
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    Please, provide me with a link to federal subsidies Amtrac receives vs. passengers it serves. Don't get me wrong ... I've taken scenic Amtrac tours and they were wonderful. Amtrac as a viable, sustainable commuter rail service IS a disaster.
     
    PrincipleInvestment, Sep 22, 2017
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    Two thirds of Chinese families do not own a vehicle. I guess the OPer never thought of that. :roll:
     
    JakeJ, Sep 22, 2017
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    I already said that didn't I.
     
    katzgar, Sep 22, 2017
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    I suppose I'm just going to have to resign myself to repeating stuff to you again and again and again. Amtrak is profitable only in the Northeast corridor the rest of the system is not profitable again I'm being repetitious here God this crap is boring. National Rail systems around the world are all subsidized by their governments. Describing any of that as a disaster is just crap. Countries make decisions on where to spend money and we don't spend a lot on rail for obvious reasons.

    If you can't figure out what the federal subsidy per Amtrak passenger is maybe the Internet isn't for you
     
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