Chinese carrier sails through Taiwan Strait hours before Biden-Xi call

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    This. Russia and China are incomparable in terms of their place on the market. The Chinese have their hands literally EVERYWHERE and they have preached a long-term geo-financial domineering strategy that has already paid massive dividends. (that's why China can afford to be neutral and despite a 'strongly worded' Biden lashing, Xi will laugh off Biden and our government, and easily so.)

    So, to give everyone a quick and easy illustration of what would happen if Biden/West tried to sanction the Chinese in response to a seizure of Taiwan: The Chinese would recall their debt held in U.S Bonds. Great Depression 2.0(or 2.5 if one believes Obama's statements about the 2009-2015 crisis.)
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The blood you see is Russian, and there is a lot of it. How you think the US is somehow in the losing end of this is beyond me, but some people tend to see US in negative light no matter what.
     
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    China.... A little bit? in 2020 they were importing $600 million per month. 2019 was vastly greater!
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    These people are living in 1990. They think the West is still the centre of the universe. It's all tied to their fear of losing the cushy First World lifestyle underwritten by very rich Govts. They need to believe things are going to bounce back to peace and prosperity any minute. They're living like there is only that possible tomorrow, for that reason. These folk are going to expire very ****ing quickly, in the not too distant future.

    I was talking to a Deep Denial type during this past week, and he's now drowning fast. Even two years ago, he claimed life was too short to worry about things that will never happen (he was sure nothing bad would happen to economies and the like as a result of the pandemic). Last year when rumblings started about global inflation, supply chains, war, oil etc .. he said the same thing. Was CERTAIN it was all temporary, and that any kind of precaution was loony tunes and 'conspiracy theorist'. Less than a year on, he's now been priced out of the cheap real estate markets he hesitated on (because as he said then - he wasn't ready for that kind of commitment), he hasn't had a pay rise in years, and he's now struggling to keep the family fed and pay his high inner city rent and utility bills. It gets worse ... he lives in an apartment, so has no hope of feeding himself going forward. At age 55 and with diminishing earning potential, he would now struggle to even secure another rental - given the insane competition. He's ****ed, basically. No war or zombie apocalypse needed - just our own refusal to accept that no one is coming to save us from these ever increasing 'little' setbacks.
     
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  5. George Bailey

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    Our compromised "leaders" will talk tough in public but privately it's a different story (remember Obama's hot mic when talking to Mevedev privately).
     
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    Dude, it's not about America. The entire West is finished.
     
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    Considering Biden’s 3 phone calls to Putin happened and then Putin invaded Ukraine…
     
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    Correct, but it's "Mao."
     
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    I dunno, I'm in "the West" and last time I looked it was still here.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Okay. Since your feet are still dry, and you have a car, you can ignore that tsunami creeping towards you. After all, you can be like this guy and throw a U turn at the last second.

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    Go outside and look up. The sky is not falling.
     
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    I've no doubt the guy in the black car could see a non-falling sky too, if he looked carefully up instead of to his right (and left, and front). Get back to me when you can't pay your rent or mortgage because food/power/fuel are $1000 a week. Or when your fully paid for apartment can't save you when those costs blow out to $2000 a week.
     
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    You must be fun at parties. Check back in a year. "The West" will still be here.
     
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    Sure....
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    Try to sanction China and America will be on it's knees. This would be far beyond the Great Depression. You really think that America can walk away from its biggest trading "partner"? They could probably collapse some of our globalist companies who are heavily exposed. Hell it would probably take out my own company as we are making serious bank in China. In addition, they have Russia, India and Brazil and most of Africa.

    In case you missed the memo, this is the moment in history where America steps down as the global hegemon. If China succeeds in destroying the petro dollar, the whole house of cards will collapse. Saudi Arabia is not accepting Biden's calls. This is how close we are to going over the cliff. If Saudi Arabia stops accepting dollars and demands Yuan instead, that is pretty much the ballgame and the official start of the Chinese hegemon. This could happen this year. With Biden in office, you know the American response will be ineffectual and self-defeating. His response to the Ukraine fiasco proves that, he apparently believes shooting your own country in the head somehow harms your enemies.

    Progressives like you should be happy. You may be witnessing the end of white supremacy forever and the rise of Asian supremacy. Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

    https://www.yahoo.com/video/10-us-companies-highest-revenue-225350456.html
     
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    Weak men like Biden create hard times.
     
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    Indeed. It is sad to think about the liquidation of Western Civilization. Look where multicultural globalist leftism got us. Oh well, at least we have more trans friendly bathrooms and lenient drug laws!! We just need to expand abortion rights and get more aid for illegal aliens... Then it will all be worth it!
     
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    Some Middle East, a few dictatorships in Africa... most Asians hate the Chinese, especially with their South sea bullying and border incursions on India.

    Russia, well...

    Don't know much about South America. Outside the communist dictatorships I don't see a lot of love there. Burgeoning economic ties, maybe.
    The Chinese middle class is the West's greatest hope. They tend not to endorse wars. I only see China invading Taiwan if things are going really bad for China and it's about to fall apart. Ie, war as a desperate move to promote nationalism and unification.
     
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    That is a good point. They have a good thing going. Why ruin it over Taiwan, but if the US gets too involved in Taiwan like they did Ukraine they may do what Russia did. Countries that border powers play by their rules. Just like Cuba.
     
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    How's that? Because an aircraft carrier that was shadowed by an American warship sailed through a body of water? Why wouldn't it be that Biden is saying that to China since our warship is in his court. The aircraft carrier is in home waters.
     
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    I agree. The US treated the Ukraine like a candy-coated playground. You can't just completely ignore who the neighbours are.
     
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    In the past year, the whole world seems to be falling apart.
     
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    No it won't. Both countries are bound like Siamese twins.
    So you think China will get along fine without the US?
    They do? Those countries have a lot of buying power do they?
    Thank you Trump.
    A big "if"
    No it won't. This is Biden, not Trump you're talking about.
    His response has been just fine so far.
    That happened how? Now you're just making things up
    Where were you in the 80's with Japan? Did you miss that? Same arguments.
    I sleep like a baby.
     
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    Yet you're the one aggrandizing China and its capabilities.
     
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    What is released to us publicly is not to be trusted. Especially when you were the Vice President and you facilitated deals with China to enrich yourself and your family.

    To think otherwise is to be unaware of how adversarial governments compromise people that are useful to them.

    China owns Joe Biden. They know it, and he knows it. He can’t fix it. It just is what it is. And public statements? Pfft! Meaningless.
     
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    DIANE FEINSTEIN WAS THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE AND SHE HAD A CHINESE SPY WITH HER DAY AND NIGHT!!!! UN ****ING BELIEVABLE.

    THEY MUST HAVE SO MUCH DIRT ON ALL THE DEEP STATERS. THINK ABOUT IT. A CHINESE SPY HANGING OUT WITH THE CHAIR OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE...

    IS BLACK MAIL A CRIME IN CHINA? PROBABLY NOT
     
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