Chinese Navy Kicks Out US warship From Territorial Waters

~ We may be at war with China already ...
Very unlikely that US would tresspass knowingly. If there were intentional "provocative actions" it would be quite clear - especially at this point in time.

 

I have a long term memory and became disgusted with the MSM when finding out things about Ukraine from a Greek site (there are Greek towns there), that somehow didn't 'jive' with our propaganda networks. Then there was Syria, where the MSM demonized Assad; the most tolerant and secular leader in the Middle East, and gave support to the 'moderate' terrorists who were ethnically cleansing and beheading Christians.

Here are some non MSM sites that I consider credible:

RT - Russian
Sputnik - Russian
Fortruss - Serbian
The Duran - Cypriot
Strategic Culture - American
Moon of Alabama - British
Consortiumnews - American​

 

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You speaking highly of Assad doesn't give you any credibility.

 

The point is it's not up to the Chinese to "kick" the US out of Malaysian or Vietnamese waters, especially when they themselves are ignoring territorial boundaries at will.

 

You turn to these alternative sources that are demonstrably biased and lacking in journalistic standards and, for whatever reason, decide that they are more trustworthy than the "MSM". Hell, you once admitted to me that Fort Russ was problematic when I pointed out how dishonest they were. Does your long term memory serve you in this regard?

Also, I think the reason you do this is simply personal bias. You want to believe these alternatives and you want to hate the "MSM" and the US government for personal reasons. Perhaps you are externalizing something in this process.

 

LOL
Here is a very good movie I have been touting (a blockbuster in Iran when it came out in 201. You should watch it and then we can talk more about the issue. You learn more about the Syrian conflict from this movie, then anything else you have been exposed to in the media. If nothing else, it will keep you entertained enough as well.

 

You build up some islands to take runways, docks and missiles. Say it's for "fishing." Then declare
the international waters around you to be your own territorial waters.

 

Which nation best serves the interests and rights of its people - China or the USA?
Which nation would you live in?
Have you read anything about coercing and bullying?

 

~ If Chinese vessels present a threat to U.S. ships Trump may give the order "Shoot them down" once again ... ?! `

 

I like to look at the big picture.

 

I know that got a bit of play as a joke with Iran, but Iran actually does have some little flying boats to "shoot down": Bavar 2

 

I never said Fort Russ was problematic so stop the lies. I might have said the Greek site is not always accurate, since Greek cannot be translated correctly, and some of the sources might be questionable - like for instance the MSM. As for journalistic standards, what standards, when every reporter in the MSM mimics every other reporter in the MSM. They all give the same spin, and they all leave out the same things. What are they afraid of? Maybe their careers?

You're just bitter that there are people in this world with integrity and a mind of their own, and who refuse to conform to your liberal agenda. As for the US, you don't give a damn about it or you wouldn't be denigrating the free presses in favor of the corporate owned propaganda networks.

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And here's China's response to the US:

"If the name China was replaced with the name US in everything they say, then it would be true".​

 

Of course I read about coercing and bullying, it's what we do all the time - and its also what we like to accuse others of doing. Projection? I don't think so! Flipping would be more like it.

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We play the game and it's a shame,
to cover up our greedy blame
of what we do,
by flipping it right back to you - Jeannette



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Of course the US, I am an American. Besides the Chinese system is terrible.

If I recall correctly, China did want to work out agreements years ago with the other nations on the S. China Seas - but we blocked their every initiative. That would be fine if we competed and offered those nations some trade agreements, investments etc. so they could better their economies, but we don't.

Instead we use mafia tactics and bully those nations with military threats, blackmail, sanctions, regime changes, etc. so we can hinder China without any concern for the economies of those countries and the people living there. I'm thinking of what the US did in the Balkans and right now in S. America - both places where China had an interest for its silk roads. I'm sure we've done it elsewhere as well.

 

So, your links are from Russia with love? I'll pass.

 

I watched the movie and came to the part when the Chechnyans were going to behead the captain and his father, and then I couldn't watch anymore.. Were they beheaded, and what happened afterwards? Please tell me, I'm afraid to go back and look.

 

What's wrong with that?

 

Everything.

 

For example?

 

Vietnam. Any more brain busters?

 

The only thing wrong with the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War was we turned coward and ran away.

 

Never should have been there in the first place. Sometimes (like all the time) it's best to stay out of other country's business and let them sort it out themselves.

Like Yugoslavia. Like Syria. Like Korea. Like Crimea. Like Afghanistan in the 1980's and now.

 

They captain and his father don't get beheaded. The ISIS group that is planning to behead them is told they need them for something else. Watch the rest as some what is yet to transpire is also going to be interesting.

 

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Wrong. U.S. power must be brought to bear upon any foreign location that opposes the will of the U.S. Otherwise what is the point of our existence as a nation (or any nation)?