Christian Atheism

Yet Jesus is son of neither, which annuls him as a candidate.

As I showed, the prophesy was for an angel and not a man to die.

Are we agreeing?

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DL

 

Forced upon them by the immoral drug war we are waging against our own children, while knowing that the only mob who can run the drug trade without ever getting arrested are our own drug pushing governments.

Connect those dots and know that our governments are our drug pushers.

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DL

 

I wouldn't say forced, but I agree with the rest. But people still have to choose to do drugs, right? Sure it can be argued that addiction undermines the ability to choose, but given many people break their addiciton, and everyone at some point chooses to take their first hit (or whatever), choice is still required. And thus, people can choose instead not to (or to quit, tho this choice certainly requires much more willpower).

 

Then what sort of God were you refering to when you said, and I quote: "Their God given natures ****ed them up"?
Surely you can see how this sort of inconsistancy on your part lends to confusion and difficulties in communication...

 

The text is unclear. Unless some other similar document is discovered, there's no way to know what the complete original text was.

 

All true.

Given that humans are known to have an addiction gene, and that we mimic our elders, so society as a whole are creating the drugs of choice, you should agree that your beef of ----------- "except we were talking about druggees spending most of their life in prison"

---- would disapear if we put our drug pushing governmenhts in the jails instead or normal people whose communbities have made them drugggees.

A mental and medical condition that is genetically controlled. Not as G D crime.

If a crime, then we all belong in jail as we all contribute to what we are all contributing to.

We should stop beating our drugee children. We create them.

It is not good parenting.

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DL

 

Does it really matter if we expect Jesus to do the moral thing?

Jesus cannot die if he is a god.

If he is not. he cannot forgive our sins or sins against us. That is our own responsibilities and that is exactly the Jewish law Jesus taught.

Only immoral people will use Jesus as a scapegoat and messiah, even if Jesus were real.

It is a sin to ride Jesus.

Who took your right and duty to forgive away?

Why would Christians think Jesus to be such an a hole and even ask?

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DL

 

I gave a quick scan for the original to get the context.

I hate rereads and found zielch.

The message is to immoral homophobic believers, and I have lost track of your position.

It refers to nature verses nurture.

Homophobic believers have to see their so called good god as intentionally creating a gay person gay, or see the rearing of their community as defective, --- and making normal people gay.

They do not want to admit their own dilemma and that is why you do not see many of them advocating their immoral position.

The same applies to the misogynous.

Moral Cowards all.

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DL

 

It really is fascinating to see moral values change in society and religious values (which are supposedly fixed and handed down from on high) change with the society. It’s almost like you can project any moral value (or bigotry) only the holy book.

 

Yes.

If the religious lived by their God's rules, --- or tried to inquisition and jihad us again, --- we would have to forcibly end the Noble Lie of the value of religious bigots and fascists.

Our moral value have not really changed, it is that these days the silent good are not as silent because the evil religious cannot use force to hide truths anymore.

The populations are getting wise to the religious con game.

They hang on only because they do not see that the political con is a better deal.

Their children will smarten them up.

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DL