Christian Bakers Who Lost their Business after Homosexual Attack Refuse to Pay $135K

It was filed and won in BOLI, Oregons Bureau of Labor and Industries , a legally binding State entity. They have the legal right to decide these issues. They DID fight it in a real court in Oregon. What they didn't say in the article is that the Owners of the Cake Shop refused to recognize BOLI, and decided to not even defend themselves. They were under court order to not talk about the case in public, but decided it was better to fight the case in the court of public opinion by going on "The Blaze" with Glenn Beck. It isn't arbitrary, it was their choice not to recognize a legally binding entity like the BOLI.

To further their stupidity they crowdfunded over $5000,000 and they still refuse to pay the fine, choosing instead to "keep the money for the future ". We can get pst the case, but the couple seem a little "off" to me. Refusing to recognize a legally binding state entity is beyond stupid.

In my honest opinion, their actions after refusing to make the cake caused the problem to be much worse. This may have been a win for them had they defended themselves. A "no defense" is just stupid and puts a lot of the blame for the fine on their actions after refusing the cake.

 

If thats all that had happened damages would not have been that high. They essentially told the couple that god condemned them by quoting anti gay bible passages at them when they tried to order the cake. It disturbed the couple who had every right to purchase from the bakery under state law, which prohibits for profit businesses to refuse service to gays and other minority groups.

The lesbian couple did file a suit at that time, and had every right to under that states law. Chances are they would not have recovered a huge amount if things had progressed normally at that point. But the "christian" couple who owned the bakery doxxed them, meaning that they published all the lesbian couples personal information on the internet.

If the couple found one person openly condemning them to hell emotionally disturbing, imagine how they felt in a literal s***storm of hate mail and death threats. The couple also had two foster children they were hoping to adopt at the time all this happened, and many of those threats extended to them. This has only become worse as the "christian" couple continues to reach out to every possible venue to air how injured they are. The lesbian couple is hiding and in fear for their families safety now. The couple from the bakery in the meantime have raised many hundreds of thousands of dollars and have many loyal followers.

Thats the basis for the damages.

 

They should not have been barred from speaking about the case in the public. The other side sure as hell wasnt..

 

Where is this "homosexual attack" that the article mentions. I don't remember any attacking going on. Is the government also "attacking" the bakers by fining them?

 

This is a dup thread.

 

Thank you. Well said.

 

Doesn't matter. It's still a government official, the judge is paid by taxpayers. Corrupt government.

 

Not serving a person because they are police officers or carrying a firearm on their person or wearing Adidas shoes instead of Nike is not a violation of the 1964 Civil right Act, Title VII. Sexual orientation, gender, ethnicity, nationality, etc must be the primary reason for the discrimination for the refusal to not serve.

 

They could talk about the case all they wanted, but were told they could not advertise that their bakery will not serve same sex couples.

Doing so is against Oregon law.

 

this is not an example of a corrupt government. Simply because you disagree with the decision that is being made or the fines that are being levied does not mean it is a corrupt government.

The couple can solve this problem every easy. They can either get a line of credit or they can make a down payment of the fine. They can even appeal the decision if they want to or to ask for a stay so that they can work out a payment arrangement.

 

A bakery is a private enterprise, the bakers are not officials.

A private enterprise in a free country should have the right to choose their clients.

The USA is becoming more and more like the former Soviet Union, it is no free country any more.

 

They raised over a freakin' half million dollars.

They could pay the fine easily and have pa-lenty left over to go on anti-gay crusades all across the country if they wanted to...

 

Extremely excessive for not baking a cake. If they were going to be forced to do anything the maximum should have been to bake the cake free of charge. Charging $135k and their business being forced to shut down is way over the line.

 

No it is not.

 

It's a business open to the public, There are laws regarding Public Accommodations.

Have been for a long time now.

 

For refusing to bake a cake? Tyranny.

 

I saw this cartoon weeks ago and found it funny.

 

True, but most of that money either went to the attorneys or to pay bills because they lost business due to their own public affairs disaster.

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They refused based on a illegal discrimination claim that violated Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

 

If a private enterprise cannot choose the clients themselves, then the American laws are similar to the Soviet laws.

Period.

 

I know. The corruption is terrible. There are corrupt ungodly creatures infestating every nook and cranny of the government. Christians are being attacked.

 

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My opinion - I think some people are being deliberately dense when it comes to understanding the difference between civil and criminal court. Further explanation will be futile.

 

You made that part up. The "couple" didn't even go to the bakery. Neither of the homosexuals were even present when the MOTHER alleges he quoted a bible verse to her. And he denies ever doing so. The mother isn't a party to the suit.

They would of equally opposed baking a wedding cake for two heterosexuals of the same sex. Their decision had nothing to do with the sexual orientation.

 

Since the 'couple' was awarded $135,000 by a judge, maybe the heterophobes should take their business to a Muslim-owned store. If they make it out of the store alive they should be awarded $135,000 from the phony Muslims.

 

They have an extreme anti-gay Legal Powerhouse Alliance Defending Freedom doing their layering, all pro-bono.

They are still conducting their business from home, and if they can't make "the bills' with almost 400K left over, then there is something very,. very wrong with them.

(well, we know there is something wrong with them, but...c'mon..)

 

zzz...

They had no problem with the people. The lesbian they refused was already a happy regular customer of theirs, and they knew her sexual lifestyle. Never refused anything to her.

But that doesn't matter to the whiny left, does it.

They only refused a cake for a specific event.

Anyway... after all this they moved back into their home, where they are able to serve whomever they choose.