Christian Hypocrisy; Biblical God is NOT pro-life

No, what you said was a fail.

You asked me what education I had. Talk about irony. So where were you educated btw? You never got around to reciprocally answering the question.

LOL Fail! I thought you'd say that. HAHA

I'm still waiting.

waiting....

Show me.

LOL How was I wrong? Please use my sources to show me. btw use ALL of them/

Yes that's right, as unbelievable as it is to you., I used science to answer the question of when life begins. You never justified your position with any logic let alone science.

LOL So basically you ask questions that you yourself can never answer when they get turned around. Yes hypocrisy and double standards are a very common quality of failures.

How? Show me how.

LOL Epic fail! Had to put me on ignore! BAHAHAHA! WIN!

LOL So basically God kills babies and blames it on women! I love it!

So basically you concede my point - God killed women, children. Sorry - no war, conflict or anything can justify this.

Yeh, which God allowed.

Lucky I'm not an atheist or I would have made that mistake.

LOL Yeh he's just so loving and kind he orders people to be killed and allows abortion and infanticide to happen amongst his followers.

LOL I hope it is just as entertaining!

 

I wandered why I had no response, then I saw the 'banned' thingy.

 

You are not liberal? LMAO

People are always telling me in my Sanger thread……"they are false…put then into context"….. Well that applies to you pro-aborts. So like it has been suggested….PUT THEM INTO CONTEXT, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

Of course they were cherry picked. You did not post all the ones that justify and protect the life in the womb.

So you sought out to bash God and His intentions from the get-go. This is more than about abortion…its about bashing God in the process.

 

God loves the life in the womb…there is no doubt.


http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/prolife.html

 

I don't want to be harsh but when does it make it alright to commit acts against the innocent, reading many of the stories here listed it makes me cringe. We dragged Nazi SS and others into courts over crimes that god either did himself, ordered through prophets to do or by the Torah allowed to be done in his name.

Shouldn't his sense of justice be at least on par with common decency of modern war crimes law we have as mere humans he is god, if he is god then he had the power to show mercy and make a point.

Example instead of blasting Egypt with ten plagues why not have had Moses walk unto pharoah, slam staff on the floor and rapture the entire population of Hebrews in a mighty divine act, with all their dwellings and goods and say half the wealth of Egypt and presto in the Promised Land in one night. I would think that would make the point and not have to hurt anyone. But nope he had to smash Egypt with ten divine plagues for sport and to just be mean. Noting in this he must have killed children, non-Hebrew slaves and foreign visitors seems to me not a good act.

I can go on with other examples there are enough of them.

 

If you think a passage was taken out of context then choose a couple and put them in the right context.

Unless you can do this you are just blowing smoke.

 

Libertarian920

People use the bible all the time as the basis for outlawing abortion, gay marriage, and even to justify slavery. People also cherry pick the bible all the time. Obviously the alleged passages regarding gay marriage are touted as the word of god, but the parts that talk about stoning and killing aren't? I get it, in our day and age that's not acceptable anymore, but then why do people get to use other passages from the bible. Why are we allowed to cherry pick what we will follow and what we won't without appearing to be hypocrites just using the bible to justify our own prejudices? The pro-life movement does the same thing, and these passages he listed here directly contradict the idea that God is so against abortion. He may not have intervened but if he really had a problem with it, he could have. If God himself didn't care enough to stop it, even back in the days where he was sticking his fingers into other Earthly matters quite a bit(plagues, disease, floods, parting seas, Sodom and Gomorrah, all that stuff he was busy doing), how does that get interpreted as God being against abortion? And if the bible is not the literal word of God, but it's interpretation by humans, why do we get to use it for justifying anything when it's obvious they effed it up from time to time?

 

God is specific on what is right and wrong…what is sin and what is not. This is not the place to get into the differences between Old Testament and New Testament Law. But there is a difference.

http://gospelway.com/bible/old_law_today_1.php

 

And none of it matters to me because I don't believe in God. Do with it what you will, but don't expect me to.

 

You made comments about the bible like you have read it…know it.

So obviously you don't know what your talking about…so why make comments at all about people who do read and know what the scriptures say?

 

I mean this is a thread about God…..and your on it. LOL

Its about hypocrisy……about something you know nothing about.

 

Although the biblical(as any other)God is a narcissistic genocidal sadistic dictator,he forbids people to remove cells out of a woman's body.
Instead he gets all the pleasure in it.

 

Interesting thing about this OP.....

These cherry-picked scriptures are all from the OT.

Christians in modern times tend to not pay as much attention to OT and do focus on the NT.

 

Clearly Christians revere the OT - else it wouldnt be in the Bible now would it?

 

The Old Law does not apply. And there are many atheists and non-Christians who are pro-life not for religious reasons, so your argument fails.

 

Who says? Actually they do - Jesus said so himself.

Of course.

Which argument? All I said was that the Bible, and thus Christian theology, makes plenty of space to endorse and even promote abortion and infanticide. You have not shown this to be wrong.

 

You do not have the Holy Spirit so the Word is just words on a page for you. God would not condone abortion in any way. but listing the scriptures would be futile….you would not get it.

 

How do you know?

Otherwise it would be... words flying on a page?

But he has, often. Dont forget throwing children off city walls as well.

Explain how the quotations are not abortion and infanticide.

 

MegadethFan said,

I am not going to play this game. You have stated that you are an atheist…libertarian. Nuff said.

No one who would have your stances…and views on life…who mocks Christianity and God….has the Holy Spirit. You might have a spirit but it is not a Holy One.

 

I have never seen any religious arguments for being pro-life except for "Thou Shalt Not Murder".

I don't understand your "rage" against religion----as it never seems to be a religious debate.

Perhaps its just a way to deflect the argument that some people want human life killed for selfish and self-serving reasons.

 

It's pro-choice vs anti-choice, pro-women's rights vs anti-women's rights. That said, I'm not much in favor of late-term abortions, unless they're terribly important, like for the health of the mother. Christians tend to take a blind absolutist approach to this issue, however, and just slippery-slope their way right back to conception, and some even to before that by forbidding the use of contraceptives. Such positions are moralistic and impractical, and certainly not very well thought out.

 

You're going to use superstition to condemn your debate opponent?

 

give us some example of proper context for a god doing those things

 

do you have the Holy Spirit, you could translate for us if the words of the bible look different to you

sounds lke the Mormons seer stones


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