Christians Took Rome, Roman Emperors Became Popes, Romans Killed Jesus

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  1. The Pope killed Jesus by proxy...

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  2. No. Just, no.

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

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    Open your mind to the idea of The New Testament being a bunch of lies designed to control a populous and nothing more - then look at who's in charge of this mass control.
     
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    ALL religious texts are lies designed to control the populous.
     
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    So why do people still buy it?
     
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    Latin was the language of the Roman Republic and then of the Roman Empire, and the title pontifex maximus goes way back toward Remus and Romulus. Augustus Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus was the first to extract this title out from ancient Roman religion with its Pantheon of gods, and meld it into the office of the emperor:

    "The pontifex maximus was the chief high priest of the College of Pontiffs in ancient Rome. This was the most important position in the ancient Roman religion, open only to patricians until 254 BC, when a plebeian first occupied this post. A distinctly religious office under the early Roman Republic, it gradually became politicized until, beginning with Augustus (63 BC to 14 AD), it was subsumed into the Imperial office. Its last use with reference to the emperors is in inscriptions of Gratian (359-383) who, however, then decided to omit the words "pontifex maximus" from his title." Wiki

    The great Latin theologian Tertullian (c. 160 to 220 AD) was the first to apply the term pontifex maximus to the bishop of Rome (Pope Callixtus I), albeit in a derisive rebuke concerning reinstatement into the church for repentant adulterers, which he opposed.
     
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    they're morons
     
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    Well, you should have just come out and stated that in the opening post. At least we'd have some idea of what you were talking about.

    That being said, Christianity wasn't invented by the Romans (or are you claiming that?). Are you claiming Christianity was hijacked by the Romans?
    Because the majority of Christians today are not Catholics. It's really hard to tell exactly what you are trying to allude to.
     
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    Nobody's claiming that.
    Probably, I'm just saying they got married, who's to say that conversion wasn't a Christian win/miracle for the church (got 'em Rome didn't it)?, all I know is, if he believed in God or not, the last Roman Emperor was the first Pope who pushed the bible to reign and they killed Jesus and probably have the record of the execution in some vault protected archive at Vatican City because they did it hypocrisy and it's 2020 and people's still buying that.
    People still follow this though, despite what percent of what faith identify with its teachings or not, people still follow, people have a hard time believing it's all a lie to keep them from turning on their long dead masters control or to rule them with from the grave since their power is now no more.
    The tool, faith, the method, propaganda and lies.
     
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    Catholics do not consider any of the Roman Emperors in the line of popes. Where do you get that idea from?

    Now you're just going off on a crazy tangent.

    Who is "they" ?

    It seems you do not have a good understanding of the historical context.

    I can make no sense of what you're saying.

    Unless you have some sort of really good post after this, that offers some theory even the tiniest bit plausible, I am not going to bother with further replies.
     
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    Ummmm. Better check your timelines.

    Romans killed Jesus because Jewish leaders demanded it, then Rome started killing Christians. Then much later the first Pope came to be, no Peter wasn't the first pope.
     
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    Sure.
     
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    i mean, that's literally what happened.
     
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    there were several hundred years between the time that the Romans killed Jesus and the time the Catholic church because any type of power in the world, during that time PAGAN roman leaders persecuted the christian church and killed Christians

    Who killed Jesus? the Romans because Jewish leadership demanded it.
     
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    Plenty of guilt to go around - Jesus tried to mess with the Establishment - and we know that never ends well.
     
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    Sometimes the "Pagan Romans" killed Christians - but more often they were left alone. At the time Constantine became Emperor Christianity was quite widespread and had a large following - it was a movement - was common among the regular army.. If this wasn't the case -Constantine would not have made Christianity the official religion - and put himself at the head of it .. Pontifex Maximus - high blasphemy.

    The idea's of the early Church - were very appealing - more so then than now I would say - the Church then was new and had not yet been corrupted by power. It was a religion of peace - and a religion of the people - good principles - it was also a universal religion of sorts - had some universal appeal.

    After Constantine it was all downhill for Christianity for well over 1000 years... and even today does not compare to the church of old ... still heavily corrupted.
     

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