http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/church-england-allow-gay-clergy-become-bishops040113 from the article In 2003, the issue split the church when gay cleric Jeffrey John, who has always maintained his celibacy, became a Bishop of Reading. soooooo, you must be celibate. How in the heck can they be gay or straight? It's like issuing a ruling that the sky is blue. Me thinks the C of E is simply pandering to a small demographic
by being attracted to the same gender or the opposite gender which is part of the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing definition of homo and hetero sexual Definition of HETEROSEXUAL 1 a: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward the opposite sex ho·mo·sex·u·al adjective \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(əwəl, -ˈsek-shəl\ 1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
But no intercourse is required only attraction thus you can be gay or hetero or bi and not have sex never have sex or have sex that was hetero or homosexual It’s something the words mean get over it If you are attracted to men your gay unless you’re also attracted to women then your bi get over it
Being gay or straight has absolutely nothing to do with whether you've actually had sexual intercourse.
Sec, for god's sake... virtually all your topics/posting invite the same debate on a subject we have gone over countless times. It's tiresome. Homosexual by definition can describe someone who is orientated towards the same-sex. Orientated. That means they desire the same-sex. We are not sexually "neutral" in our fantasies and desires up untill the point we actually have sex, people know what they want and choose to act on their innate urges. Sexual orientation means an inclination towards a particular gender relative to your own. We aren't just empty emotionally vacuous heads feeling or desiring nothing untill we randomly have sexual contact with a man or woman. We do things because of our orientation, not form it in the instant we copulate with a certain sex. You're viewing the word "homosexual" as congruent to "rapist" or "murderer" (not literally just the way the word applies). Obviously someone with murderous tendencies cannot be described as a murderer untill they have actually killed someone. That is what the word means; it's purely action-defined. Homosexual can describe both the orientation and the nature of an action. A homosexual orientation, like a heterosexual or bisexual orientation, isn't defined by actions alone. It's really not hard to grasp. All that aside, the Bishop in question may have had sex with a man at some point. Taking a vow of celibacy doesn't mean you've ALWAYS been celibate. If you're going to pick a topic to flog your dead horse at least think it through properly.
"Always maintained his celibacy" doesn't necessarily mean he has never actually had sexual contact with another male. It could refer to him consistently maintaining his current celibacy throughout the process of his ordination/time as a cleric.
sec we've been telling you this for a long time now and it's sad to see you absolutely refuse to accept the fact that sexual attraction exists and is the only thing necessary to determine a person's sexual orientation. Good luck continuing to live in denial of reality.
The more people like Sec, Dixon, funisnow and Martin_777 post the same repetitive crap, the more this place seems like a mental asylum where people constantly do and say the same things expecting different results. Honest to god.
People who post as they do, are (most likely) out to vilify homosexual people, so that dehumanization of homosexuals might become more easily widespread. I'm not very tolerant of such inherently homophobic views.
There is nothing confusing about the Church's statement: http://www.churchofengland.org/media-centre/news/2013/01/statement-regarding-clergy-in-a-civil-partnership-as-candidates-for-the-episcopate.aspx So what is the source of this alleged confusion? People don't have to be engaging in sexual behavior to be in a civil partnership. This thread appears to be about nothing more than spreading its originator's misconceptions about what homosexuality is. As such, the title is purposely misleading. Nothing to see here but the usual trolling. I see the irony in what I'm about to say, since I'm posting in the thread. But for just once, can we please not feed the trolls? Abandon the thread and let them have their god-(*)(*)(*)(*)ed circle jerk. Unsubscribe from the thread (as I will presently do). Just don't give them the satisfaction of getting us to further waste our time on the pointless task of talking to people who have no interest in hearing us, and only in getting their adrenaline fix from the confrontation they're trying to bait.
What is the teaching of the Church on human sexuality? I don't know. I suppose to find out I'll have to work through the online documents. It would have been better for the press release to have been clear on what it means, instead of using imprecise language. So I'm confused. Is it the Church moving forwards or simply treading water? Is there some sort of "don't ask, don't tell" policy going on here? And for those who aren't interested or who think there is too much talk of gay rights here, I have some advice....don't join the thread. But then sometimes it's so irresistible to get a little outraged eh?
and I've been telling you that pigs fly; so what's your point other than we're both wrong. Me about the pigs and you about homosexuality. because it's your OPINION does not make it right. Now would you care to comment about the topic?
Sorry people are hetero sexual or homo sexual when they’re not having sex there any other sexuality as well Iv been hetero sexual since around puberty did not have sex till after getting my 1st job a while after high school my attraction to women did not change or start after I had sex I was the same before and after Are language reflects desire as primarily determining sexuality Your gay as most every 1 understands the word if your attracted to the same gender alone and bi if your attracted to both no matter how much you try to suppress it no matter if you ever have sex with the same gender or not your gay or bi if you feel that way
Why don't you read the definition of sexual attraction and sexual orientation and look into the psychology of how a person determines their sexual identity. There are mountains of Scientific proof of this fact and you continue to ignore it and behave as if they are not real. Why do you do this sec? What is the point in denying that sexual attraction exists in the vast majority of us before we ever have sex?
Spin and faulty comparisons do not a convincing argument make. Nearly all your posts centre around the same thing, change the bloody record!
