Citing 'security concerns' due to government shutdown, Speaker Pelosi urges delay of SOTU address

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    Townhall's characterization of her letter notwithstanding, there was no point in her letter where she said that Secret Service would be unable to provide adequate security.
     
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    According to ABC/WAPO it moved after his speech. Of course you already seen that link.
     
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    Yes, just the other day I had to scold my 3-year old for grabbing a little girl by the p****.
     
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    You are using a different metric because you know what I said is not a lie.
     
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    Democrats didn't even have to go to the polls to vote, illegal alien ballot harvesters came around to pick up their ballots.

    Those who weren't registered to vote were able to wait after the polls had closed on election day and then register and cast a vote.

    But I'm only speaking for what takes place in California.
     
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    And an end to the Democrat-voter Registration Drive known as the open southern border!
     
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    I have. And the comparison took place a year prior. The polls conducted over the last month (i.e. immediately before and after his speech), which used the same organizations and the same methods multiple times during that time span, found zero movement.

    But of course your lack of a public education failed you on that front.
     
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    Then there is Yahoo. Oh and it was DHS that contradicted her after Secret Service spoke up.


    Pelosi Says She ‘Doesn’t Care’ After DHS Contradicts Claim that SOTU Should be Cancelled

    Pelosi told reporters when asked about the secret service’s claim that they cold secure the House chamber for President Trump’s upcoming State of the Union speech...

    https://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-says-she-doesn-t-135130463.html
     
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    ...what the actual ****?
     
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    I was JOKING - yes, sometimes we have to teach children (mental children, like Trump) to not do bad things, since they just don't know any better.
     
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    Yet Pews headline for this present moment in time contradicts you. Falling support actually means losing support. To bad your public education wasn't able to help you comprehend that. Blame them, not me.
     
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    However, both the U.S. Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security have not been funded for 26 days now — with critical departments hamstrung by furloughs.

    Sadly, given the security concerns and unless government re-opens this week, I suggest that we work together to determine another suitable date after government has re-opened for this address or for you to consider delivering your State of the Union address in writing to the Congress on January 29th.

    Where is the lie?
     
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    *******n dude. Are you really so dense as to think that their survey, which was breaking down support for the wall along political groups, meant that support for the democratic position on the wall was losing support?

    Please, just read the article again. Don't stop with your interpretation of a partial headline.
     
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    You are fully aware of the fact your metric is irrelevant - success/failure in midterm elections is not judged by total votes, but by the number of seats won/lost
    Thus, your statement is lie because you know both Clinton and Obama lost more house & senate seats in their first midterm than Trump.

    Please -- lie to us some more.
     
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    Every report I’ve seen describes the letter as a request

    I think she can legally lose the House chamber but has not done so yet

    If not then trump should ignore the letter and show up in the House as expected
     
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    Btw you do know that when polling is done that it is the questions asked.....that counts.


    Poll: Plurality Agrees with Trump's 'Border Crisis ...
    Breitbart News
    8 days ago · Trump has more public support that the nation is facing a border crisis than Democrats have for the claim the nation is facing a "problem." ... 37 percent of independents, and 19 percent of Democrats. ... Eighty-three percent of Republicans and 13 percent of Democrats support the wall, while 83 percent of Democrats and 14 percent of Republicans ...
     
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    Did Pew seek out republicans in districks that voted for hillary?

    Or even worse didtricts that voted for jeb bush or kasich in the 2016 primaries?
     
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    Great. Go find the most friendly poll you can.

    A majority of Americans still blame Trump for the shutdown. A majority of Americans still oppose the wall. And a majority of Americans still disapprove of Trump's job performance.
     
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    Ain't gonna happen.

    Trump's gonna make Pelosi eat her words about security and force her to sit down behind him for an hour and squirm like a stuck pig while he rips her and her party a new one on national TV.

    The furious expressions on her artificially reconstructed face are going to be priceless. Why would you want to miss out on that? :smile:
     
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    9.8 million more votes were cast for House Democrats than were cast for House Republicans in 2018. That is the single worst defeat for any party in any midterm.
     
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    Losing 60 seats was the worst and that was Obama.
     
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    You are fully aware of the fact your metric is irrelevant - success/failure in midterm elections is not judged by total votes, but by the number of seats won/lost
    Thus, your statement is lie because you know both Clinton and Obama lost more house & senate seats in their first midterm than Trump.

    Please -- lie to us some more.
     
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    Trumps Job performance has increased. It will increase even more once he wins on his border wall. Plus Trump favorability is higher than Pelosi and Schumer's.
     

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