Clashes as yellow vest protests grow in Belgium, Netherlands

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  1. Mac-7

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    I think I can guess

    Everyone looking for a handout along with decent french citizens who are tired of funding the deadbeats
     
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    "Globalists" blah, blah, blah. You're propagandizing the forum in the hope of disrupting the West. You're perfectly happy Russia is run by a kleptocracy worse than the plutocracy here.
     
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    Bad guess. You're a reactionary who mindlessly toadies against his long-term interests.
     
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    You continue confusing wealth redistribution with socialism. Wealth redistribution is necessary to save capitalism.
     
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    No, you have no idea what's going on.
     
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    I'd be interested to hear your definition of greed in the current system
     
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    Guess again, there is no such thing as heaven on earth. As for the heavenly realm? It's comes through heart and compassion - which obviously you don't have. That's okay though, you can always comfort yourself.

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    Possibly it's you who are confused.

    "The redistribution of wealth is the essence of socialism While communism purports to equalize the amount of wealth every person can enjoy by having the state manage all the means of production of wealth (which has failed miserably in every instance),socialism has the aim of redistributing wealth through progressive taxation".
     
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    While it's true that Trump is wealthy & may be less dependent on other rich people to win elections, he's still one of the wealthy elites, and everything he's done AS PRESIDENT has been for the benefit of himself & his wealthy, elite class. Instead of "draining the swamp," he's added to it. He's personally a part of it. His tax cut benefits mostly the wealthy; his efforts to erode existing regulations (designed to protect consumers & average Americans) benefit only the wealthy business owners; his single-minded, one-sided policy of pulling out of every agreement his predecessors signed, is another attempt to boaster profits for the wealthiest business owners & corporate executives. The only thing he's invested in the middle class or poor of the nation is his his continual, obsessive lies, wherein he promises his base he'll do for them what he's really doing for his wealthy friends. But he never will.
     
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    I am not liberal, and I asked you to explain yourself, and you were not able to.

     
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    They won't "get it" until Trump is discredited as caring about average folks to a significant number of the middle- and lower-middle-class who have been duped into supporting Trump because they have been abandoned by the liberal elite who came to dominate the Democratic Party. Trump is, of course, supported by upper- and upper-middle-class whites who have used the GOP to further individual and corporate interests. Their most notable success is the tax cut; their most significant failure is their inability to get rid of Obamacare.
     
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    Objectivism is on the scrap heap of history. Move on.
     
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    Typical of rightwing Americans who don't understand what's going on in other countries.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_conservatism
    From famous Socialist Margaret thatcher...
    Even in the US, environmentalists are not soley from the left.
     
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    No, their system isn't "socialism lite." Get a clue.
     
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    In a world of fake news, censored broadcasts, and manufactured narratives, who can possibly understand anything?
     
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    Average folks are unhappy because the elites are taking more than their share of wealth and income in an imitation of what's happening here. The Bloviator-in-Chief that you helped elect is making things worse.
     
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    The carbon tax is unfair to average folks. It isn't "socialist" because it isn't collectivizing production. Again, you have a fubdamental misunderstanding of what constitutes socialism.
     
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    The carbon tax puts too much of a burden on average folks. It may not be regreessive, but it isn't sufficiently progressive.
     
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    A carbon tax is a sort of user tax and isn't even redistributionist, what you mistakenly see as "socialist."
     
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    It helps to actually visit foreign countries and talk wirh people directly.
     
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    But not because it's socialist.
     
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    My god, you're clueless. Global warming is real, people protesting the carbon tax know it is, and they object to rich people getting richer while average folks struggle. The carbon tax was the last straw, nothing more.
     
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    The problem is the Euro Zone, not the common market.
     
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    False premise: rich people aren't getting robbed.
     

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