Clean energy jobs outnumber fossil fuel jobs in most US states

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  1. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    Why would you want them to get away from clean energy?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And of course, you are aware that the majority of funding for the Sierra club as well as most environmental causes comes from the wealthy people you despise and blame for everything you think is wrong?
     
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    http://www.sierraclub.org/board
    These are a nasty group aren't they.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nope

    Are you confusing "green energy" as synonymous with "renewable energy"? Nuclear energy is zero emissions - prettty green.

    ooooh, so you reject that such a thing as "excessive regulation" exists? :)

    I think that's a good stopping point.
     
  5. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.energy.gov/jobstrategycouncil/downloads/us-energy-employment-report-2017-0

    https://www.docdroid.net/G6njmYC/sierra-club-clean-energy-jobs-report-final-1.pdf.html
     
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    considering wed have more than wed know what to do with, im fine with that. Does the word "profit" piss you off?
     
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    sure, but i have reality on my side, trust me.
     
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    State and federal gas taxes, have nothing to do with the wholesale price distributors charge to station operators. BTW, the Federal gas tax has not changed in 24 years.
     
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    What pipeline would that be? Hint, it is NOT Keystone XL, which will only transport Canadian tar sands oil through to the Gulf of Mexico for export to......China.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They said to take away subsidies and just let them compete on the free market. That doesn't mean the person wants us to get away from clean energy, it means they want them to compete on a private market without interference.

    I also don't want the state to support religion - that doesn't mean I'm against religion. Only state interference.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't that old hat? Seems more likely "the pipeline" refers to Dakota Access, which doesn't come from Canada.

    Also on Keystone XL, that moves Canadian oil down to refineries. It creates more work for American refineries, which means American companies make more profit - which some share of will end up being spent in our economy privately (extra private spending is always good for jobs), and it also means more government revenue.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who said it does?

    If when the tax is assessed is so important, then are you suggesting you'd have no issue with taxing consumers consuming green energy 3x what the green energy companies make in profit per KWh?
     
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    Everybody does.
     
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    Tell me how much obama spent on clean energy. AND global warming. Do you really believe its the same or less as bush? Because thats what your arguing. And if your in support of increasing subsidies, and your claim is that obama did NOT, then you must be rather dissapointed with him.
     
  15. Robert

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    You allege you can read the report by smearing me.

    So, how much did the federal Government pay to oil companies from the US Treasury? I said that over the years, not one Democrat provided proof. Well, you might be the very first.
     
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    None for American oil which Obama tried to put out of business.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess Congress changed that law and Obama agreed with it.
    http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/16/investing/oil-prices-export-ban-congress-deal/?iid=EL

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/29/investing/us-oil-exports-begin/

    It is Canada's oil anyway. They merely pipe it to our refineries.
     
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    A free market would suggest companies burn dirty coal if the market is there. That would contradict the need to use clean energy, by placing a free market in there. Which means, the person you said doesn't want to get away from clean energy, would, if the market was there. Which means, we would be right back to burning dirty energy.
     
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    And I'm guessing it's laziness that has prevented you from engaging in debunking the OP's truth, while admitting your own whopper of a lie by telling us all you were too lazy to find the truth yourself? So how would you know it was a massive whopper of a lie? Did laziness somehow tell you? Lol!
     
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    What is living in a bubble like?

     
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    Wrong as usual. There's nothing to debunk. Why should I do unbillable work to debunk a claim that hasn't been adequately demonstrated in the first place? Silly leftists. It's why you constantly lose and lose and lose these days, will keep on losing, and do so poorly in the private sector.
     
  22. dairyair

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    I don't know. I really have not made any claim.
    You just refuted someone who posted a graph to make a point and didn't offer up anything but your opinion. And still haven't.
    Is green energy profitable at this time, maybe parts, but it will be the future of energy.
     
  23. dairyair

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    Why would you say that? Cue Rush.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    We'll DUH Obama did everything he could to enforce unfair competition what did you think would happen.
     
  25. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    Lol! Nothing to see from you as always.The stats are simple enough to acquire.Already done it myself before on this forum. And so, if you're too lazy as you suggest to do the simple leg work to debunk the OP, then get the (*)(*)(*)(*) off the field. It's nothing more than smack talk that speaks to the dishonesty of your post. Play ball or get back in the bleachers where you belong. You're the one who called it a "whopper of a lie. Now you say there is "nothing to debunk". We'll, what about the "whopper" of a lie? Are you saying that the "whopper" of a lie is nothing to debunk? If you claimed it to be a "lie", then there is something there to debunk, right? Please tell us that you aren't going back to your old tricks of making up a claim, then failing to back up that claim? Not again?
     
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