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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So are you pretending that illegals use guns to steal benefits like medical care and housing?

    Seriously?

    Sad!
     
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    How did guns get involved here?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    What other criminal methods are you alleging that they would be using to steal those benefits?
     
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    Just wanted to show a couple of Democrat supporters I’m trying to convert that the majority of Dem supporters cannot be reasoned with and it’s never a debate, just your Dems are right and Trump supporters are human garbage. Thanks for your help.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So you made a BOGUS allegation about illegal immigrants stealing benefits and when you are asked to substantiate your nonsensical allegation you MOVE the GOALPOSTS because you have NOTHING CREDIBLE.

    All that you have actually demonstrated to those "Dem supporters" is that you are telling them the same bovine excrement that your IMPOTUS spews about illegals.

    Sad!
     
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    Oh man... No, there was nothing ‘bogus’ about what I said. This was all about Democrats giving free stuff to illegals when we have homeless here, Americans who NEED medical here, and those who will defend the hell out of them and find it ok the Democrats have turned their backs on the taxpaying American citizen. It’s really scary, (READ: SCARY, NOT SAD), when people can’t think for themselves and when people believe what their party and the corrupt news tells them to believe.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You were asked to "think for yourself" and provide CREDIBLE SUBSTANTIATION for the bogus allegations that YOU posted.

    That you can't says that YOU have never bothered to actually do any RESEARCH to find out for yourself if what you erroneously believe is accurate or not.

    Yes, Americans do NEED medical care but it is YOUR GOP and your IMPOTUS that is PREVENTING them from obtaining it while the Dems are the one that are proposing Medicare for ALL!

    So PROJECTING tells everyone that you are just REGURGITATING whatever suits your own Confirmation Bias and you are NOT "thinking for yourself" at all.

    People who "think for themselves" do not take ANYTHING at face value. They do their own INDEPENDENT RESEARCH and QUESTION EVERYTHING so that they can figure what is FACTUAL and what is bovine excrement.

    Here are IRREFUTABLE FACTS that you can verify for yourself.

    66% of hardworking Americans can NO LONGER afford to own their own home because the GREED OBSESSED Wall Street Banksters have bribed the GOP and duped the Dems into allowing them to STEAL money out of the paychecks of hardworking Americans.

    Americans pay MORE for healthcare that every other civilized nation on the planet BECAUSE the Big Pharma CORPORATIONS bribed the GOP and duped the Dems into allowing them to GROSSLY OVERCHARGE for their drugs. Furthermore they have OBSTRUCTED Americans from buying cheap generics from other nations. What this means is that a cancer drug that costs $5000 per month, $60,000 per year, has a GENERIC equivalent that costs $25 a month, $300 a year. But Americans are FORCED to pay the $60,000 a year price instead,

    Do you seriously believe that some illegal immigrant who is willing to work at backbreaking labor picking vegetables for LESS than minimum wage is the SOLE CAUSE of your current predicament? They are LESS than 5% of the ENTIRE US POPULATION but somehow you erroneously believe that they are the cause of ALL of your problems?

    That is because you are being LIED to by your IMPOTUS and the GOP!

    They WANT you to erroneously believe that the illegal immigrants are the sole cause of your problems because OTHERWISE you will figure out that they are NOT THE PROBLEM!

    Your PROBLEM is the GOP and your IMPOTUS and to a lesser degree the Establishment Dems!

    Go and do your own research and find out for yourself who is ACTUALLY lying to you.
     
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    You just keep making my argument look better. Why are you so angry?
     
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    Sad that you believe so much utter nonsense!
     
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    Extremely scary that you believe their nonsense...
    We have more Trump allies thanks to you.
     
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    ~ And only a peep about this from mainstream media... :-? ?
     
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    Well the total is now three dead terrorist leaders, is that enough to qualify as a policy?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations!

    You just set the record for achieving negative credibility in the fewest posts!

    You must be so proud!

    Have a nice day!

    @Golem it appears as though this thread topic is attracting the trolls who want to derail it.

    Becoming embroiled in the ME is far easier than getting out of it which is sort of a parallel to becoming embroiled with trolls here at PF. ;)
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :worry: ~ I am guess that Aubrey Bailey is drinking from the same cup as Nancy P and the Democrats on Capitol Hill ...
     
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    What does The Daily Show have to do with this? On the show they give Trump plenty of credit. That is why they are always making fun of him.
     
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    You are catching on. When Republicans insist on using alternative facts where truth isn’t truth, we can not have an honest conversation. It has become such a big deal, that scientists are studying the phenomenon. It is partially understood. It has a lot to do with processing information in the emotional part of the brain. When new information is met first with the flight of fight response, information contrary to belief is discarded. Doubling down on a bad idea, as a defensive mechanism only fixes the bad idea more firmly in one’s mind.
     
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  17. Golem

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    Exactly! That's precisely the same reason why Bush Sr. didn't invade Iraq. And why it was wrong for Bush Jr to invade Iraq.

    Exactly my point: Republicans should never be in charge of something as complicated as this. Because they don't understand it.
     
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    That is a dumb statement, even for you.
     
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    But alas the US is also a capitalistic nation which makes the price of a commodity like oil very important to our economy.
     
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    What is the policy? To kill terrorists? You think Trump is the first President to come up with that idea?

    There is no strategy! Not even an attempt at coming up with a strategy. The Trump Doctrine is "We'll see what happens"
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm pretty sure it's just that they don't understand it. Not only do they not understand the M.E. They don't understand the fact itself that it's so complex.
     
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    You're so informed, it's really impressive
     
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    I suspect that you are right.

    If the IMPOTUS labeled Mother Theresa as a "terrorist" they would have no problem at all if he killed her with a drone strike because the label is all they need to "understand" in order to justify his criminal behavior.

    It was @ImNotOliver who raised the point about the emotive processing and it tends to be on the binary "fight or flight" level whereas the ME requires actual cogitation in order to grasp the complexities.
     
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    And it is pathetically unimpressive that your criminal IMPOTUS is so grossly UNINFORMED given that he has access to experts regarding the complexities of the ME.
     
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