Climate activists climb, superglue themselves to globe at Universal Studios

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    No content again! How do you think Malthusian analysis is utopian?
     
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    It is the government that destroyed that all while bellying aching about those same corporations.
     
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    Is this supposed to be coherent? If so, you really need to have another go. We know that the US reliance on its military sector is increasingly problematic. Economies of scale demanded market concentration. Market concentration then just intensified military industrial complex inefficiency.

    In comparison, where's your thought-out comment over green technologies?
     
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    What I am telling is that the government there is part of the problem not part of the solution. It is by it's very nature more of a hindrance than a help and will always be so. If it cannot succeed without the help of the government then it will never succeed at all. Government always subsidizes the inefficient. If it wasn't inefficient it would have no need of government subsidies.
     
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    You haven't thought your comment through. The government has always been a key part of the innovation process (crikey, even your right wing mate acknowledged that). The problem is that the military sector is no longer the needed fertile ground. Dealing with the oligopolistic companies makes it stagnant (and more about profiteering at the expense of the American people). This actually makes green technology investments even more valuable.
     
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    You have not thought it through it is the government that has created to oligopoly in the first place. They did it through the national recovery act and other things during the great depression. Big government, especially big neo fascist government, what ever their pretension otherwise love big business. After all it's easier to steer a few dinosaurs than an equal weight in kittens. Why do you thing Exxon Mobile now is building and operating a goodly percentage of the wind farms in the country? Who do you think operates that giant bird cooker out in the desert near California? If I'm not mistake the same out fit that's been running the power stations in CA for decades now? You think the little guys are getting in on this cash cow? don't kid your self.
     
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    I actually referred to that. They needed economies of scale in military production. That necessarily led to government demanding mergers of arms producing company. Stop boring me by pretending counter argument.
     
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    The point sir is that what they have done to military procurement the will do to green energy and there won't be much if any innovation after they do. Those ass clowns want to control and they don't give a damn about innovation in fact innovation tends to scare the crap out of the big government types unless you're talking new and better spy gear for listening in on everyone's conversations.
     
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    You haven't understood the basic economics. The military sector was spin-off, particularly when smaller firm was involved. That's long gone now. Green technologies are innovative, by definition, as they involve firm entries. They'd become inefficient, and ape the military industrial complex loved by the right wing, way down along the line.
     
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    Then again explain why the oligarchs are taking over the operations and the little guys are being systematically frozen out of the green energy gold money? Oh and the tech is mostly frozen where it was 20 years ago.
     
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    There's certainly economies of scale issues, given fixed costs from the technologies involved.. However, there is also much more competition compared to the military sector. It is cretinous to suggest otherwise.
     
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    Actually it is deadly accurate.
     
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    You do have a habit of saying nothing. If you can't critique the comment, then just say so. Here it is again and try grown up detailed critique: "There's certainly economies of scale issues, given fixed costs from the technologies involved.. However, there is also much more competition compared to the military sector. It is cretinous to suggest otherwise".
     
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    I did inform you that you are wrong I can't speak to how government operates in Britain by I can damn ell tell you how it operates here. And it is nothing like you seem to think it does. The only thing that matters is control and power if it doesn't help with one of those to goals they will at best ignore it. For them this who green energy carbon thing is little more than an opportunity to gain more power and control.
     
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    How sweet, you just forgot to offer any genuine critique. Given you're not going to achieve that, have a jolly good day. If you're going to surprise me, let me know.
     
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    The critique sir is that it doesn't work the way you think it does. Green energy has only had a few small refinements the battery life spans are slight better as is survivability of solar panels but the tech remains pretty much the same. And it isn't going to get markedly better under government auspices.
     
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    Present evidence in support. I'm bored of the right wing blubbering.
     
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    I used to have a dog who seemed to believe that you couldn't really know a turd was a turd until you rolled in it. Some people seem to have the same problem.
     
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    High powered right wing comment on display!
     

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